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Oh Dear...Tom Tom...How Could you?

Oh Dear...Tom Tom...How Could you?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Cmon greenpawn dude, you have played chess more than most here, tell them of the folly of the Sicilian, an English opening, yes, thats right, spit, ding, the English opening, a tempo down, big giant craters at d5, awe man is there no talking sense to these dudes, there all high on poetry and whiskey and endgame studies, no one plays the Sicilian unless he NEEDS to win, we're all doomed, doomed i tell you.
Doomed? Doomed with this System oh so rrrich in its numerous branches, sharpan aways azkin fah cou rageous play yet firm an solid???
If we played the Frenchie then the Jeannie Deans would made her last departure RC dude;
๐Ÿ˜€

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Originally posted by black beetle
Blood red sparklin Scheveningen.
Hey Gpal how could you mention all these systems but Scheveningen?!?
Did not know how to spell Scheveningen.

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Originally posted by black beetle
Doomed? Doomed with this System oh so rrrich in its numerous branches, sharpan aways azkin fah cou rageous play yet firm an solid???
If we played the Frenchie then the Jeannie Deans would made her last departure RC dude;
๐Ÿ˜€
O Sikelos ine kakos pektis

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Can someone explain exactly how the Darren Brown trick played-out here is against the TOS?
I know David Tebb says that it is because a 3rd party is deciding your moves. Even so, I am not convinced that this complex & contrived way of playing your games is cheating.
You could just as easily say any move played by a stronger player than yourself from a db in any position is 3rd party assistance - the fact that players are effectively playing each other via your gameload is irrelevant in my opinion unless the TOS specifically mention this method.

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
O Sikelos ine kakos pektis
Holy $$*T man, ya dangerous!

Now ya rrrelly wiped the floorrr with whatever was saved from my many pieces of skin carefully stiched together;
:'(

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Originally posted by black beetle
Holy $$*T man, ya dangerous!

Now ya rrrelly wiped the floorrr with whatever was saved from my many pieces of skin carefully stiched together;
:'(
Don't know what it means.

Got the Greek lad from across the other side of the office to type
it for me - asked him to mention the Siciian.

Hope you get well soon.

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
Don't know what it means.

Got the Greek lad from across the other side of the office to type
it for me - asked him to mention the Siciian.

Hope you get well soon.
What an Efialtes that Greek friend of yours! It means that "the Sicilian player is a bad player". There, as soon as I wrote it down I feel seasick๐Ÿ™‚

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
Can someone explain exactly how the Darren Brown trick played-out here is against the TOS?
I know David Tebb says that it is because a 3rd party is deciding your moves. Even so, I am not convinced that this complex & contrived way of playing your games is cheating.
You could just as easily say any move played by a stronger player than yourself ...[text shortened]... r via your gameload is irrelevant in my opinion unless the TOS specifically mention this method.
The difference between the Darren Brown trick and using a database is quite simple. Databases are only useful in the opening stages of a game. As soon as your opponent deviates from the database, which usually happens quite early in the game, you are on your own and have to think for yourself from that point.

A player acting as a middleman (as Darren Brown did) is able to copy the moves throughout an entire game - far beyond any database. If he does this in the two games with White and Black, seeing this through to the end, he can guarantee scoring 50%. Either he wins one game and loses the other or has two draws. So anyone who acts as a middleman against two higher rated opponents can guarantee himself a boost to his rating.

For instance if a 1200 player was paired against Weyertrass with White and Akizy with Black, by using the Darren Brown trick he could effectively force them to play against each other. Whoever loses would suffer a massive rating loss, because their opponent is regarded as only a 1200 player. The winner would also be hurt for the same reason. After months of hard work, he would gain nothing from his labours, because the rating difference between him and his supposed opponent is too great.

The only person who could benefit from this match is the middleman, who is guaranteed a 32 point rating increase, regardless of what happens. This is why the Darren Brown trick is so nasty, and is morally as bad as using an engine.

Also just because it's not specifically mentioned in the TOS, that doesn't make it okay. There are many ways to cheat that aren't listed in the TOS. The part about not using "third party assistance” should be sufficient anyway.

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Originally posted by David Tebb
The difference between the Darren Brown trick and using a database is quite simple. Databases are only useful in the opening stages of a game. As soon as your opponent deviates from the database, which usually happens quite early in the game, you are on your own and have to think for yourself from that point.

A player acting as a middleman (as Darren ...[text shortened]... d in the TOS. The part about not using "third party assistance” should be sufficient anyway.
I find it more difficult to think of a more pointless waste of ones life.

If I want to act as a middleman it would be more fun to be a pimp.