12 Sep '11 22:34>
Given that we all know that chess engines are forbidden by the rules of CC, I would like to ask a couple of hypothetical questions that have been on my mind recently.
-First scenario:
As you know all chess enginess today can do a deep evaluation and (amognst other things) output a score of the current position. Positive if white is ahead or negative for black. Now, assume that one does not look at the evaluated positions but only at the current position score given by the engine (e.g. as a graph plot). So for example, I am white and it is my turn to play and I ask the engine to give me an evaluation of the position. Say the engines tell me that the score is +2. Great!. I make my move (evaluated by myself) and continue. Then perhaps I ask the engine to re-evaluate the position after my move. It gives me -10. Crap!. That was a blunder for sure.
I can imagine that such a use might affect psychology and nothing else? I can think however of an example that might be considered unfair advantage. Say you are again white and down by a rook. You think that your position is not very good. You ask the engine for an evaluation and it gives you +2. Interesting. There must be a very good move that will get me from say -5 to +2. I should spend some more time finding it (and perhaps I do). Of course one should always assume there is a strong move (perhaps not of the above magnitude) and try to find it, but sometimes we do get sloppy.
What do you guys thing about this type of engine use? Hypothetically speaking.
-Second scenario:
Say I am decided to play openning XX. Before I even begin to play I ask from the engine to evaluate the best N-moves in 14-ply search. Just an exemplar number. Doesn't really matter. All the evaluated permutations are then saved in an openning database. Much more deep and dense than what is available online or in books for the same openning XX. Now, when I finally start my game, is it allowed to consult the created database?
Imagine for a second that before the game, during offline I studied the same openning XX. From books, online databases and without the help of the engine I studied some new lines from the opening. Now I guess there is nothing wrong with that. Even players in OTB chess do that. They even do analysis with an engine. I guess the difference is that with CC we can store the opening databases whereas with OTB you must memorise.
-First scenario:
As you know all chess enginess today can do a deep evaluation and (amognst other things) output a score of the current position. Positive if white is ahead or negative for black. Now, assume that one does not look at the evaluated positions but only at the current position score given by the engine (e.g. as a graph plot). So for example, I am white and it is my turn to play and I ask the engine to give me an evaluation of the position. Say the engines tell me that the score is +2. Great!. I make my move (evaluated by myself) and continue. Then perhaps I ask the engine to re-evaluate the position after my move. It gives me -10. Crap!. That was a blunder for sure.
I can imagine that such a use might affect psychology and nothing else? I can think however of an example that might be considered unfair advantage. Say you are again white and down by a rook. You think that your position is not very good. You ask the engine for an evaluation and it gives you +2. Interesting. There must be a very good move that will get me from say -5 to +2. I should spend some more time finding it (and perhaps I do). Of course one should always assume there is a strong move (perhaps not of the above magnitude) and try to find it, but sometimes we do get sloppy.
What do you guys thing about this type of engine use? Hypothetically speaking.
-Second scenario:
Say I am decided to play openning XX. Before I even begin to play I ask from the engine to evaluate the best N-moves in 14-ply search. Just an exemplar number. Doesn't really matter. All the evaluated permutations are then saved in an openning database. Much more deep and dense than what is available online or in books for the same openning XX. Now, when I finally start my game, is it allowed to consult the created database?
Imagine for a second that before the game, during offline I studied the same openning XX. From books, online databases and without the help of the engine I studied some new lines from the opening. Now I guess there is nothing wrong with that. Even players in OTB chess do that. They even do analysis with an engine. I guess the difference is that with CC we can store the opening databases whereas with OTB you must memorise.