Let us say you've played a great game and it's come down to the endgame, and your opponent make a move you did'nt see coming. You realize you're one move from checkmate : Do you resign or do you make the move, conceding the game?
I recently played an opponent who allowed me to make that move, even sent a nice message, and it reminded me of the others who have done the same, and of course those who have not.
I have decided that from now on if I am beat after a good game, and I know I'm one move from checkmate and it's obvious, I am going to make the move, and allow the checkmate to stand for the record. It seems the only sporting thing to do.
any oppinions on this?
Nyxie
Originally posted by NyxieThis makes no sense to me. Last I checked a resignation was a win just the same as a checkmate. If I think a game is hopeless, I resign; if I don't I play. Is it aeschetically more pleasing to execute a mate rather than know you would have a mate if your opponent hadn't resigned? If I saw I was going to be mated by a combo I didn't see on the next move, I'd resign. What's the sense of waiting; there's other games to play!
Let us say you've played a great game and it's come down to the endgame, and your opponent make a move you did'nt see coming. You realize you're one move from checkmate : Do you resign or do you make the move, conceding the game?
I recently played an opponent who allowed me to make that move, even sent a nice message, and it reminded me of the ot ...[text shortened]... d for the record. It seems the only sporting thing to do.
any oppinions on this?
Nyxie
Originally posted by no1marauderHave to agree with No1 here.As a player It matters not to me whether I actually checkmate my opponent or if he'/she resigns a hopeless situation.I will allways resign a loss,and add a note saying thanks for a good game. as I appreciate it when it is done for me.If you resign and don't say anything ie; good game or well played.,then it would appear a bit like your a sore loser. Mike
This makes no sense to me. Last I checked a resignation was a win just the same as a checkmate. If I think a game is hopeless, I resign; if I don't I play. Is it aeschetically more pleasing to execute a mate rather than know you would have a mate if your opponent hadn't resigned? If I saw I was going to be mated by a combo I didn't see on the next move, I'd resign. What's the sense of waiting; there's other games to play!
If the mate is coming in a turn anyway then it really doesn't make much difference - the time wasted is minimal. I'm perfectly happy for my opponent to resign, but some people appreciate the art of a checkmate sometimes so I wouldn't deny somebody the "satisfaction" of checkmating me if I thought it was a pretty mate. One opponent of mine actually asked me about 4 moves from mate whether I wanted to play it out or for him to resign. I said resign, but I was very tempted! (And I appreciated being asked.)
- Mike
Originally posted by KneverKnightI can only speak for myself.but in answer to your question,I would be slightly put out.I know you are done, you know you are done.If it is say, 3 moves to said checkmate,then it is possibly 3 days before it is over.Not a big deal,but why?Personally I would rather not play it out,and I don't feel you have done me a favor if you think I want to actually checkmate you.I only bring this up,to say that not everyone would be pleased if you played it out.I also acknowledge there are those that want to see it played out.I also acknowledge that I may not know what I speak of😏
If I'm way behind, my opponent has an unstopable pawn or like that, I will resign. If he has a nice mate (and I see it) why not play it out?
If I was on the winning side, I would not be offended by either route my opponent chooses. But because I have been away from chess so long, I admit I would have more satisfaction from actually executing the checkmate, because it's a "kicky blast" to do that, in the immortal words of Greg Brady. 😵
I remember having a mate-in-three which my opponent didn't see until it was a mate-in-one. I remember wondering whether he didn't see it, or saw it but wouldn't resign. When he resigned just before the mate, I was glad. If I want to see the mate, I can set up the position on a board and play it out to my heart's content.
I believe that when you see you're lost is part of your play. Therefore the win (or loss) by resignation is purer, IMO, because the score more accurately reflects the play.
However, I generally do not mind if an opponent, for some reason, wishes to play out a lost game. I prefer resignation, both for my losses and my wins, but I'm not in a hurry. If I were, I wouldn't be playing correspondence.
For myself, I insist on my right to resign at any time. The opponent who beats me has already gotten the win, already earned the mate. I keep nothing from him by resigning. If he wants to see the mated position, he can set it up on a board.
I have played PopeBambi in two clan challenges, thinking at the time that his clan leader wasn't doing him any favours because of the rating difference between us (but that's not a complaint or for me to judge!).
Throughout all the games he has been a 'real' gentleman. I'm sure he will not mind me saying I was on top early in the games, but we played them all in a very good spirit and despite PopeBambi appologising for not giving me tougher games (definately not necessary) I was allowed to play out a nice checkmate.
It's just such a shame that a few individuals have very different ethics, despite moving reguarly in many other games, having to wait weeks for an opponent to move (espescially when it's still in the opening) is just pure bad sportsmanship.
But like others have said, you make a list and don't play them again.
Unless you just don't see it coming, playing it out could be considered rude (as it could be interpereted that you don't have any confidence that your opponent sees it!). Resigning is a perfectly acceptable and courteous way to end a game, and serves to acknowledge that you have been out-played. But I do agree with those who say that a few kind words could accompany the resignation, similar to congratulating an opponent after an OTB game. I think it a little unfair to see a resignation as the electronic equivalent of knocking the board over....
Originally posted by BLReid...and I agree wholeheartedly with that. If I am playing another player who is clearly outplaying me (and this doesn't have to mean material advantage) I will resign if I can see no way forward - it's not because I'm upset or angry, rather I see no point in prolonging a game which is clearly lost.
Resigning is a perfectly acceptable and courteous way to end a game, and serves to acknowledge that you have been out-played.
The exception is where I beleive the ending is likely to throw up a mistake (because it is not clear cut) or say a drawn game only has one line. I have drawn games from clearly won positions myself, just by making the wrong pawn/king move, as I suppose many others have.
But as in my earlier post, it's the spirit in which the game is played that's important...🙂