Originally posted by odoodsdudes1 e4
If you could make first half a dozen or so moves to have central control without your opponent moving,what would they be ?
2 Bc4
3 Qf3
4 Qxf7#
If I was restricted to not moving any pieces beyond the fourth rank in this exercise, I'd play:
1 d4
2 e4
3 Nc3
4 Nf3
5 Bc4
6 Bf4
All of the minor pieces and the two central pawns are either occupying or contolling the four center squares. Plus, I'm ready to castle.
I like my position a lot, but I'd still lose to a master from this position. 🙁
Originally posted by gaychessplayerIf you play patiently i.e not rush in like a fool and play the board and not the person, I believe it will not be easy to beat you.
1 e4
2 Bc4
3 Qf3
4 Qxf7#
If I was restricted to not moving any pieces beyond the fourth rank in this exercise, I'd play:
1 d4
2 e4
3 Nc3
4 Nf3
5 Bc4
6 Bf4
All of the minor pieces and the two central pawns are either occupying or contolling the four center squares. Plus, I'm ready to castle.
I like my position a lot, but I'd still lose to a master from this position. 🙁
I agree - with this kind of a headstart, a 1500 probably beats a master
this would be an interesting way to handicap chess games -- for every difference of (say 300) rating points, you give the underdog an extra move to start the game (with no piece allowed past the 4th rank).
It would be interesting to see how many moves it would actually take to provide an equal game between say a 2500 and a 1500.
Originally posted by MelanerpesThat would be an interesting experiment.
I agree - with this kind of a headstart, a 1500 probably beats a master
this would be an interesting way to handicap chess games -- for every difference of (say 300) rating points, you give the underdog an extra move to start the game (with no piece allowed past the 4th rank).
It would be interesting to see how many moves it would actually take to provide an equal game between say a 2500 and a 1500.
When I play against certain friends or family members, who do not study chess, I always give them "odds." Sometimes, I play down one pawn, or give up the first move or two. However, I found the greatest handicap is time; 30 minutes to 10 minutes, an example, for an entire game will shift the balance considerably. Actually, it can be quite fun to play in this manner and I suggest it to you all.
Originally posted by clandarkfireIIRC, Reuben Fine in his Chess the Easy Way actually showed a position that you're describing. I have the book somewhere, so I'll post the position sometime.
I'm not sure how many moves it takes, but I'm know that you can go to such a position where white has a forced mate, even if you cannot go past the forth rank.
Originally posted by MelanerpesHave you ever played a master OTB? It is freakin' scary how much better at chess they are than you or I. I seriously doubt that a 1500 would score over 25% against a 2200 in this situation.
I agree - with this kind of a headstart, a 1500 probably beats a master
this would be an interesting way to handicap chess games -- for every difference of (say 300) rating points, you give the underdog an extra move to start the game (with no piece allowed past the 4th rank).
It would be interesting to see how many moves it would actually take to provide an equal game between say a 2500 and a 1500.
Originally posted by randolphI think you're correct about this. In fact, I don't think that an average 1500-player would even score 10% in this situation.
Have you ever played a master OTB? It is freakin' scary how much better at chess they are than you or I. I seriously doubt that a 1500 would score over 25% against a 2200 in this situation.