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  1. 30 Apr '14 21:55 / 3 edits
    I just stumbled created an opening trap OTB and would like to share it. If it is a known trap, does anybody know the name?



    Please share traps you have played. Whether they are opening traps or otherwise, original or old favorites.
  2. 30 Apr '14 23:24 / 1 edit
    Here:


    Why can Black just not take the Bishop?
  3. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    30 Apr '14 23:29
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Here:

    [fen]rn1qkb1r/1p3Bpp/pn6/4pP2/8/8/PPP2PPP/R1BQK2R b KQkq - 0 10[/fen]
    Why can Black just not take the Bishop?
    Good eye as usual GP.
  4. Standard member Copope
    Duck
    30 Apr '14 23:30 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Here:

    [fen]rn1qkb1r/1p3Bpp/pn6/4pP2/8/8/PPP2PPP/R1BQK2R b KQkq - 0 10[/fen]
    Why can Black just not take the Bishop?
    ....Bb4+?
  5. 30 Apr '14 23:53 / 1 edit
    Hi CP.

    Once you have seen the Schlechter line in the Danish Gambit you look out for such things.

  6. 01 May '14 00:14 / 1 edit
    Good eye. I should have noticed that since I considered ...Bb4+ for the previous move. Check all checks!
  7. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    01 May '14 00:25
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi CP.

    Once you have seen the Schlechter line in the Danish Gambit you look out for such things.

    [pgn]
    1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 d5 6. Bxd5 Nf6 7. Bxf7+ Kxf7 8. Qxd8 Bb4+ 9. Qd2 Bxd2+ 10. Nxd2 {Now it's anybody's game. I have won both sides of this OTB.} [/pgn]
    I'm a Scotch Gambit player and many lines transpose into similar traps.
  8. 01 May '14 00:53 / 1 edit
    Still it's good to see a player experimenting and trying things.
    Hope this does not put him off fishing about because in doing so he
    will be storing ideas and patterns. Learning wee tactical tricks.
    I've thumbed him up for effort.

    The bad news is the trap is really a bad move, there are too many good
    moves for Black, he bound to stumble on one of them.....and it has been seen before.

    Ravello -rizzers RHP 2011

    Rizzers is a bit of an O'Kelly player and has won over 70% of his game with it.
    He has met this line twice.



    and

    Frami - rizzers RHP 2012

  9. 02 May '14 00:34 / 3 edits
    {Deleted} That'll teach me to try to analyse positions on my phone
  10. 02 May '14 12:46
    GreenPawn,
    Is 3. c4 useful against the 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 a6?

    Even if it is not used as a Marockzy Bind, is 3. c4 useful against O'Kelly? Would anyone care to comment?
  11. 03 May '14 02:42 / 1 edit
    Hi KOP.



    The O'Kelly, as in the first posted game can easily transposes into a Nadjorf
    if White goes for d4. (more about transpositions later...I can knock that c5 pawn back to c6!)



    3.c4 stopping b5 and d5 is a playable, White has holes on d3 d4 so throw in
    a d4 and get a bind up - though you may meet players who like playing
    against it and know a wee bit more than you.
    (if they are common O'Kelly players then there is a strong chance they will.)

    But as long as you don't faff about and neglect opening priciples then you
    should be able to play any opening. The rule being if in doubt get a piece out.
    At this level bring out your bits, grab a fair share of the centre and castle.

    Only look for opening kills if you are sure they have broken an opening rule.
    Then you must jump on it and react.
    A bad opening move can easily turn into a thorn in your side if it is not punished.

    If you are gambit inclined toss in 3.b4. and then a3.



    or 3.a4 if you want to annoy them.


    The plan here is pretend you are Black facing an English (1.c4) and take it from there.

    Always be on the look out for transpositions to another opening.
    The O'Kelly can swing into a Caro Kann if White playes 3.c3.

    How can that happen. A Sicilian is 1...c5, A Caro Kann is 1...c6.

    Easy.



    And now from the Caro Kann


  12. Subscriber PureRWandB
    CCC Club Leader
    03 May '14 04:00
    First time I experimented with this, last night OTB.
    It worked out well.

  13. 03 May '14 05:29
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi KOP.

    [fen]rnbqkbnr/1p1ppppp/p7/2p5/4P3/5N2/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 3[/fen]

    The O'Kelly, as in the first posted game can easily transposes into a Nadjorf
    if White goes for d4. (more about transpositions later...I can knock that c5 pawn back to c6!)

    [fen]rnbqkbnr/1p1ppppp/p7/2p5/2P1P3/5N2/PP1P1PPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 3[/fen]

    3.c4 stopp ...[text shortened]... a6 7. Nf3 Nf6 8. Bc4 {and by a perfectly same series of moves we have the same position.} [/pgn]
    That position crops up in a variety of openings doesn't it?
  14. 04 May '14 04:11
    GreenPawn,
    Usually, I am not into gambits. I might try the Bishop gambit at g4 sometime with the black side against Ruy Lopez exchange. Who knows, I might even try a Scotch Gambit someday. I have a hard enough time trying to play with equalizing.
  15. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    04 May '14 11:24
    One time, I spent an evening experimenting with the Jack Daniels Gambit Accepted,
    where you substitute both of your opponents bishops for triple shots of the beverage,
    and once captured you had to drink it swiftly.

    Results were rather unclear.