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I have come to the conclusion ( rightly or wrongly ), that correspondance players are about 300 elo weaker at least than over the board only players of supposed similar rating. What do you lot reckon? am I wrong and that correspondance masters are as good as OTB masters?

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Originally posted by mothman1
I have come to the conclusion ( rightly or wrongly ), that correspondance players are about 300 elo weaker at least than over the board only players of supposed similar rating. What do you lot reckon? am I wrong and that correspondance masters are as good as OTB masters?
ehm... do you mean in OTB chess or correspondence chess?

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Originally posted by schakuhr
ehm... do you mean in OTB chess or correspondence chess?
good point. What game do you play to find out who is better? Checkers?

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Originally posted by mothman1
I have come to the conclusion ( rightly or wrongly ), that correspondance players are about 300 elo weaker at least than over the board only players of supposed similar rating. What do you lot reckon? am I wrong and that correspondance masters are as good as OTB masters?
Troll.

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What about trolls, I suppose some find them cute. Are you a troll?

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Trolls serve their purposes. Who else would chase away the bear in the old Adventure game? ;-)

As to RHP v. OTB ratings, my OTB strength is probably under my RHP rating because I still have a hard time "thinking on my feet." With the leisurely pace of correspondence chess, however, I think my game is better and, I believe, _in general_ correspondence chess games have fewer gross blunders in them.

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Originally posted by CrawlIce
Trolls serve their purposes. Who else would chase away the bear in the old Adventure game? ;-)

As to RHP v. OTB ratings, my OTB strength is probably under my RHP rating because I still have a hard time "thinking on my feet." With the leisurely pace of correspondence chess, however, I think my game is better and, I believe, _in general_ correspondence chess games have fewer gross blunders in them.
Oops. It's the bear that chases away the troll! Sorry.

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Originally posted by mothman1
I have come to the conclusion ( rightly or wrongly ), that correspondance players are about 300 elo weaker at least than over the board only players of supposed similar rating. What do you lot reckon? am I wrong and that correspondance masters are as good as OTB masters?
I asked a similar question a few days ago. My rating in "live" games on ICC (www.chessclub.com) is almost always about the same as my RHP rating. My feeling is that my RHP rating should be higher than my "live" rating. So....either my live rating is inflated---which I don't really think it is, or I'm just not thinking hard enough (or taking my time) in my correspondance games.

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I think its just down to your chess ability, there was a study saying that that purley analytical powers couldnt account for why GM's are better than the rest of us at chess. From what iv seen this basicly level of chessiness runs through us all so that your OTB and correspondence ratings will be linked to your level of chess understanding. After that its just which time control you feel more comfortable with which decides if people are better at OTB or Corry.

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Originally posted by mothman1
I have come to the conclusion ( rightly or wrongly ), that correspondance players are about 300 elo weaker at least than over the board only players of supposed similar rating. What do you lot reckon? am I wrong and that correspondance masters are as good as OTB masters?

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Originally posted by CrawlIce
Oops. It's the bear that chases away the troll! Sorry.
That bear must be a ranger of Mielikki if it can cause a troll to fear enough to run.

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Heh, i'm actually the other way round my OTB rating is better than my correspondence rating. Probably because i still take a minute or two to make moves (same as OTB), but since it's not a flowing game and there can be days between moves i tend to not have any consistency or strategy, i just react to the immediate position.

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Originally posted by schakuhr
ehm... do you mean in OTB chess or correspondence chess?
Good point, in OTB chess you have to calculate variations in your head as deeply as they need to be or you are able, the ability to do this is more or less what determines OTB playing strength. In correspondence chess you can set up the pieces on an analysis board and move them around to see what will happen, so in a sense the analysis problem becomes one of spotting what is directly in front of you. Also if the OTB player is an openings specialist their advantage would definitely be diminished in a correspondence game.

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