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  1. 10 Sep '08 16:04
    Hi all, just a silly thread, but I'm curious if others find that their over the board play memories of games are more vivid.

    I mean, of course you remember the place, probably the table, etc...whereas otherwise you're staring at a computer.

    More what I mean, though, is I find that I remember the games more vividly. I don't think that I can chalk it up to spending more time concentrating on the game because right now I'm only playing Game in 30 min. (due to club & my schedule...).

    I think it has more to do with the intensity of being faced directly across from your opponent and your emotions at the time.

    Thoughts?
  2. 10 Sep '08 16:14
    Originally posted by MrHand
    Hi all, just a silly thread, but I'm curious if others find that their over the board play memories of games are more vivid.

    I mean, of course you remember the place, probably the table, etc...whereas otherwise you're staring at a computer.

    More what I mean, though, is I find that I remember the games more vividly. I don't think that I can chalk it u ...[text shortened]... f being faced directly across from your opponent and your emotions at the time.

    Thoughts?
    I tend to forget CC games in a matter of days,sometimes even hours,yet I can give the score of OTB games as long as 15 years ago.For me it's because I put more effort into OTB.Your suggestion of higher intensity sounds plausible too.
  3. 10 Sep '08 16:16
    Yeah, maybe I do "try harder" in OTB. A blunder in correspondence doesn't seem as costly to me whereas if I make a blunder after driving, taking a chunk of time away from home, etc.....seems more of an investment. Not to mention, not wanting to lose to this joker sitting across from me!
  4. 10 Sep '08 19:38
    Originally posted by MrHand
    Hi all, just a silly thread, but I'm curious if others find that their over the board play memories of games are more vivid.

    I mean, of course you remember the place, probably the table, etc...whereas otherwise you're staring at a computer.

    More what I mean, though, is I find that I remember the games more vividly. I don't think that I can chalk it u ...[text shortened]... f being faced directly across from your opponent and your emotions at the time.

    Thoughts?
    Well, I've only been playing online and OTB chess for a few years. I still have a mental picture of a good number of my OTB antics, some good, some bad. Still remember the first time I hung my queen OTB (I got nothing in exchange, just gave it away. I moved my queen to a capture square of an enemy pawn. ) I can't remember nearly as many of my online activities.
  5. Standard member Wulebgr
    Angler
    10 Sep '08 20:04
    Playing thousands of blitz in an average year leaves few that are memorable. Likewise the hundreds of CC games are too broken up in time to leave vivid memories with a few exceptions.

    I remember openings, combinations, blunders, endgames, and sometimes entire games from OTB. That includes some recollection of nearly every OTB game played at standard time controls. OTB quick events are another matter.
  6. 10 Sep '08 21:00
    It's no mystical secret why you can recall OTB games and not
    not some/all C.C. games.

    OTB you get the position in 3d.
    In C.C. most of you analyse on the screen.

    This is why myself and stronger players think learning from databases
    and DVD's is lacking that 3d touch that helps you to retain positions.
    (ie. the whole exercise is pointless to OTB play).

    Of course some will disagree but the proof is here in this thread.
    Monitor Memory falls short of OTB play.
  7. 10 Sep '08 21:07
    I agree that the 3D aspect plays a role, but for me, I think the aspect of being right there with an opponent and the energy of the situation plays a large role. It's almost like an out of body experience....ok, slightly over-stated, but sort of like when playing music and you "lose yourself."
  8. 10 Sep '08 21:21
    Originally posted by MrHand
    I agree that the 3D aspect plays a role, but for me, I think the aspect of being right there with an opponent and the energy of the situation plays a large role. It's almost like an out of body experience....ok, slightly over-stated, but sort of like when playing music and you "lose yourself."
    OTB the adrenaline rush certainly helps.
    In C.C. play there is none.
  9. 10 Sep '08 21:25
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    OTB the adrenaline rush certainly helps.
    In C.C. play there is none.
    I get a little adrenaline from CC at certain moments, but compared to OTB, it doesn't registerster on the scale.
  10. Standard member Wulebgr
    Angler
    11 Sep '08 01:28
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    It's no mystical secret why you can recall OTB games and not
    not some/all C.C. games.

    OTB you get the position in 3d.
    In C.C. most of you analyse on the screen.

    This is why myself and stronger players think learning from databases
    and DVD's is lacking that 3d touch that helps you to retain positions.
    (ie. the whole exercise is pointless to O ...[text shortened]... e will disagree but the proof is here in this thread.
    Monitor Memory falls short of OTB play.
    3d/2d makes no difference to me. But a game that lasts four hours is much easier to recall than one that lasts four minutes or four months. There's also the factor that preparation for four hour OTB games are the principle reason for the other forms of chess. It's an issue of focus. Memory serves the salient.
  11. 11 Sep '08 18:27 / 1 edit
    I find OTB memories more vivid too, but that's because I spend more time OTB, have feedback for all my senses, play against people I know sometimes and am much more engaged as well as focused.