1. Standard memberRBHILL
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    08 Jan '14 00:35
    What is the most over and underrated chess openings in your opinion?

    I wouldn't really know myself because I am not a good player to determine, but for me 1.b4 as under and the Sicilian Dragon as over.
  2. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    08 Jan '14 03:56
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    What is the most over and underrated chess openings in your opinion?

    I wouldn't really know myself because I am not a good player to determine, but for me 1.b4 as under and the Sicilian Dragon as over.
    Don't sell yourself short RB. You're a good enough player and you've been around long enough to know what you like etc.
    I disagree about the Dragon. I played it for years, both sides, and still to this day will play the black side from time to time. But considering I've switched to predominately playing the Najdorf perhaps I should agree with you. Sac sac mate is what Fischer is supposed to have thought of the Dragon, so you're in good company chess wise indeed.

    Myself I think the Caro Kann is suspect, and the French a tough nut to crack.
  3. Standard memberRBHILL
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    08 Jan '14 05:312 edits
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    Don't sell yourself short RB. You're a good enough player and you've been around long enough to know what you like etc.
    I disagree about the Dragon. I played it for years, both sides, and still to this day will play the black side from time to time. But considering I've switched to predominately playing the Najdorf perhaps I should agree with you. Sac ...[text shortened]... s wise indeed.

    Myself I think the Caro Kann is suspect, and the French a tough nut to crack.
    Cool, but after this move, I am a horrible player. Moving to fast.

    http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardanalysis.php?gameid=10350336&cbqsid=26502

    And this one too: http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=10409734&cbqsid=22664

    I should of moved the white square bishop.
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    08 Jan '14 10:131 edit
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Cool, but after this move, I am a horrible player. Moving to fast.

    http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardanalysis.php?gameid=10350336&cbqsid=26502

    And this one too: http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=10409734&cbqsid=22664

    I should of moved the white square bishop.
    Game 10350336
    Game 10409734

    The games in question.

    if you use the [ gid ]game#[ /gid ] marker (without the blanks) it's more comfortable for people to look up your game.
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    09 Jan '14 00:27
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    What is the most over and underrated chess openings in your opinion?
    I don't think openings make that much difference at our level. A top player could play the nicely named 'Sodium' opening (1. Na3) and still destroy most opponents without breaking a sweat.

    Choose an opening that results in the kind of middle games you like, don't worry if it's sound at GM level.
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    09 Jan '14 21:14
    1.b4 is playable. I have dabbled with it myself, and it's always good for a surprise at blitz.
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    10 Jan '14 00:431 edit
    Colle is the most underrated, Scicilian defences to the king pawn the most overrated.
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    10 Jan '14 01:05
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Cool, but after this move, I am a horrible player. Moving to fast.

    http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardanalysis.php?gameid=10350336&cbqsid=26502

    And this one too: http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=10409734&cbqsid=22664

    I should of moved the white square bishop.
    You must play something you believe in. Magnus Carlsen has proven once for all time that openings are irrelevant, even at Grandmaster level.
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    10 Jan '14 17:43
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Magnus Carlsen has proven once for all time that openings are irrelevant, even at Grandmaster level.
    Huh? How'd he do that?
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    11 Jan '14 01:011 edit
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Huh? How'd he do that?
    did you follow the last world championship? Carlsen is notorious for getting practically nothing from the opening and in many instances a slightly inferior position.
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    11 Jan '14 04:47
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    did you follow the last world championship? Carlsen is notorious for getting practically nothing from the opening and in many instances a slightly inferior position.
    Yeah, but it's not like he started busting out the Grob or Naka's 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5. He played normal openings.
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    11 Jan '14 13:29
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Yeah, but it's not like he started busting out the Grob or Naka's 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5. He played normal openings.
    Sure he played normal openings as black but he could have played the KIA against everything that Anand had to offer and could still have won.
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    11 Jan '14 19:22
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Sure he played normal openings as black but he could have played the KIA against everything that Anand had to offer and could still have won.
    The two times he played Nf3 / g3 formations led to 1) a boring 16 move draw and 2) a game Anand almost won (Carlsen's Q got pushed to h1). If he had played that any more than 2 games he would have won by less of a margin, or even not at all.
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    11 Jan '14 22:04
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    The two times he played Nf3 / g3 formations led to 1) a boring 16 move draw and 2) a game Anand almost won (Carlsen's Q got pushed to h1). If he had played that any more than 2 games he would have won by less of a margin, or even not at all.
    Dude he doesn't do openings and he is world champion, he does endgame's though! Anand does openings and he's not world champion!
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    12 Jan '14 06:56
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Dude he doesn't do openings and he is world champion, he does endgame's though! Anand does openings and he's not world champion!
    Everyone "does" openings. 😕
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