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this guy at work heard i play chess for fun. today he walks in and plops down three notebook bound volumes desk called "the defense game" and "the beginner's game." the author claims this is the best innovation in the history of chess. basically he provides different ways of getting to a standard position after 8 moves that he claims is "impenetrable."
has anyone ever encountered this? looks interesting but crackpot to me.
Originally posted by runninfiendI don't know much about it, but it seems that the opening moves (for White) are b3, d3, e3, g3, Bb2, Bg2, Nd2, and Ne2 (in any move order) and stay passive until tactical opportunities arise. It is said that computers have a hard time beating that, but strong human players, capable of building a plan and executing it at their capability have no problem winning against it.
this guy at work heard i play chess for fun. today he walks in and plops down three notebook bound volumes desk called "the defense game" and "the beginner's game." the author claims this is the best innovation in the history of chess. basically he provides different ways of getting to a standard position after 8 moves that he claims is "impenetrable."
has anyone ever encountered this? looks interesting but crackpot to me.
Originally posted by Mephisto2It sounds ghastly.
I don't know much about it, but it seems that the opening moves (for White) are b3, d3, e3, g3, Bb2, Bg2, Nd2, and Ne2 (in any move order) and stay passive until tactical opportunities arise. It is said that computers have a hard time beating that, but strong human players, capable of building a plan and executing it at their capability have no problem winning against it.
Originally posted by runninfiendThe guy wants to sell his book - he's not going to say: "this works quite well against people who don't like this kind of opening - but you'll still get hammered by good players" is he.
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It sounds a bit like the King's Indian attack, in the sense that you don't have to worry about move order, but without the attack. Yes it probably is quite hard to break down, but how do you actually win games with it? Do you just rely on your opponent getting carried away and sacrificing all his pieces in an attempt to break you down? What if your opponent does the same?
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after 8 moves you arrive at a position of pawns on d3 and e3, knights on b3 and g3 and bishops on d2 and e2. looks way too passive. the author claims that this is a "compact defensive position resilient to attack" and goes on and on about how great this is. his "foolproof research" is backed up only by games he played and notated against a computer of "master" level. it is interesting that someone would try and peddle this as a sound approach to openings. it's like the art bell approach to chess books. kooky.
The moves are completely illogical, why the hell would you play b3 and g3, and then not put either of the bishops there!? Seems to me like black instantly gains an edge. You might be able to play something really dumb, like Bh3, stopping white from castling, then just ripping apart the center(maybe at the cost of some wood) just to mate him. I'm not impressed.
Originally posted by runninfiendSounds like psychological warfare....white plays as if they're black and so therefore confuses black and diffuses the defences they would normally play against set opening moves susch as e4, d4 etc
this guy at work heard i play chess for fun. today he walks in and plops down three notebook bound volumes desk called "the defense game" and "the beginner's game." the author claims this is the best innovation in the history of chess. basically he provides different ways of getting to a standard position after 8 moves that he claims is "impenetrable."
has anyone ever encountered this? looks interesting but crackpot to me.
Originally posted by runninfiendPafu has written three opening books: The Beginner's Game, The Center Game and The Defense Game.
this guy at work heard i play chess for fun. today he walks in and plops down three notebook bound volumes desk called "the defense game" and "the beginner's game." the author claims this is the best innovation in the history of chess. basically he provides different ways of getting to a standard position after 8 moves that he claims is "impenetrable."
has anyone ever encountered this? looks interesting but crackpot to me.
You can view the latter two books for free in pdf format on his website: beginnersgame.com
Basic Moves in the Beginners Game (as Black): ...g6, ...Bg7, ...b6, ...Bb7, ...e6, ...d6, ...Ne7, ...Nd7
Basic Moves in the Center Game: ...a6, ...d6, ...e6, ...h6, ...Bd7, ...Be7
Basic Moves in the Defense Game: ...e6, ...d6, ...Ne7, ...Ng6, ...Nd7, ...Nb6, ...Be7, ...Bd7
In his ill-fated 1966 World Championship Match against Petrosian, Spassky played the Beginner's Game twice and drew both games.
I have done well in blitz with the Center Game and the Defense Game.
Just as Mark Twain thought that Wagner's music was "better than it sounds", I think that the Pafu systems are "better than they look."
Many years ago I entered a chess tournament with three friends. We were all doing terribly and none of us had more than 1/4 going into the last round. We went to the pub at lunchtime, drank three pints, and decided that we would all play g6, b6, Bg7, Bb7, e6, d6, Ne7, Nd7 against whatever our opponents played against us. My three friends all won their games and I drew mine against a much higher rated opponent. The post-mortems in the same pub after the tournament showed that we were all very lucky and none of us ever played that defence again.
Originally posted by Fat LadyNice story, LadFatty.
Many years ago I entered a chess tournament with three friends. We were all doing terribly and none of us had more than 1/4 going into the last round. We went to the pub at lunchtime, drank three pints, and decided that we would all play g6, b6, Bg7, Bb7, e6, d6, Ne7, Nd7 against whatever our opponents played against us. My three friends all won their games ...[text shortened]... the tournament showed that we were all very lucky and none of us ever played that defence again.
I think these openings have more psychologically effect. You somehow invite your opponent to attack, and usually people are not used with the patterns of attacking this position and they create weaknesses that you can exploit...
But, probably you will never get higher than some 2200 or so using this opening, and you will not develop much your imagination and chess skills...