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    03 Apr '09 18:15
    This is a continuation of Thread 110139.

    Our 27. ... Nxd5 was met by 28.Bf2.

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    04 Apr '09 01:12
    Nc3 looks like the most active solution here.
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    04 Apr '09 03:42
    I agree, but how would we continue after 28...Nb6?


    29...e5 followed by 30...Bf5?

    30...Be6(so long as the knight is pinned) followed by Ra4?

    30...Be5 to stop the f-pawn and eye the g3 and f4 squares?
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    04 Apr '09 17:13
    ..Be6 takes the B out of danger, protects the N and aims the B at the a2 square. Then both of our bishops form a battery aimed at the white king.

    After that, we can take the c2 pawn with our rook, move the N to e4 and we've got our entire army in hot pursuit of his king.
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    04 Apr '09 18:44
    Originally posted by ParShooter
    ..Be6 takes the B out of danger, protects the N and aims the B at the a2 square. Then both of our bishops form a battery aimed at the white king.

    After that, we can take the c2 pawn with our rook, move the N to e4 and we've got our entire army in hot pursuit of his king.
    29.Kb2 followed by 30.c3

    Now what?

    This goes for all moves not 28...Nc3
  6. Standard memberpeacedog
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    04 Apr '09 19:071 edit
    I'd like to know whats wrong with Rc2? Followed up by Nc3.
  7. San Francisco, CA US
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    04 Apr '09 21:49
    Originally posted by ResigningSoon
    29.Kb2 followed by 30.c3

    Now what?

    This goes for all moves not 28...Nc3
    29 .. Rb4+
    30 Ka3
    30 .. a5.

    White's knight remains pinned because Bb2#.
    Be1 is answered by Rxd4 and we win a piece.

    OTOH,

    29 ..Rb4+
    30 Kc1
    30 ..Nc3

    If the rook moves along the first ran, we take the knight.
    If the rook moves to d2 or d3, we take the a2 pawn with check.
    If the knight moves to c6, forking our rook and pawn, ..Rb1+, Kd2 ..RxR+ and we win.

    Maybe I missed something?
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    05 Apr '09 01:151 edit
    Originally posted by ParShooter
    29 .. Rb4+
    30 Ka3
    30 .. a5.

    White's knight remains pinned because Bb2#.
    Be1 is answered by Rxd4 and we win a piece.

    OTOH,

    29 ..Rb4+
    30 Kc1
    30 ..Nc3

    If the rook moves along the first ran, we take the knight.
    If the rook moves to d2 or d3, we take the a2 pawn with check.
    If the knight moves to c6, forking our rook and pawn, ..Rb1+, Kd2 ..RxR+ and we win.

    Maybe I missed something?
    29...Rb4+ 30.Kc1 Nc3 31.Rd3 Nxa2+ 32.Kd2 I'm guessing this isn't what we should be looking for(our knight's sorta trapped and he's about to take our bishop).
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    05 Apr '09 01:25
    Originally posted by peacedog
    I'd like to know whats wrong with Rc2? Followed up by Nc3.
    Once again, how do you continue after 28...Rc2 29.Kb2 Nc3 30.Re1

    Do you move the knight back to d5? Ba4?

    I'm worried that we lose our initiative after the white king is off the long diagonal. Maybe we can hit a few pawns, but how long can our initiative really last? So far I'm not convinced about any move other than Nc3.
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    05 Apr '09 23:16
    28 ... Nc3 is better.
    If 29.Rd2 then 29 ... Rb4 and threat of Rb1 - mate.
    If 29.Rd3 then 29 ... Bf5.
    If 29. Rook leave line "d" we can capture on d4.
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    05 Apr '09 23:331 edit
    Never mind.
  12. Subscriberptobler
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    06 Apr '09 05:32
    I vote ...Nc3 provisionally - will look into the position soon - maintains our great initiative
  13. Subscriberptobler
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    07 Apr '09 10:01
    bumping
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    08 Apr '09 23:501 edit
    Venci has sold me on Nc3.

    Right now I'm glad we went with 23. Qxc4. I wasn't going to vote for it, but that move put our rook on a very nice squre.

    My vote: Nc3
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    09 Apr '09 17:33
    My vote

    Nc3

    And we offer a draw, post the mainline of our draw and if he declines we go ahead and refute his winning line. I am certain we have a draw in the bag, and after looking into it a lot, and with the rest of you obviously doing the same, I think the only continuation we can play is for the draw, there is no win for us that I can possibly see
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