1. Standard memberclandarkfire
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    10 Nov '09 01:57
    Originally posted by AudreyxSophie
    Wow, after and hard game, we got an hard queen ending. so good, .. I tought about that too.
    If that's the line we end up following, I think we can consider ourselves lucky; I believe we could win it. I think It's more likely that PAWNRIOT will go for the draw by moving his rook back and forth.
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    10 Nov '09 08:53
    interesting one!

    though Pawn riot could have gotten a draw earlier in the game, but decided to play...
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    10 Nov '09 09:13
    Originally posted by National Master Dale
    paul did you anylyze the ...f6 plan i didnt too much but we get connected passers with it
    I've looked at the positions more now.

    46. ... Re3+ 47.Kb4 Rxf3 48.c5 f6 seems a bit slow. 49.c6 fxg5 50.c7 Rf8 51.Rxh3+

    Black loses his h pawn, and will have to trade his rook for the c pawn. This is the problem with Re3xf3. The rook has to stay tied to the h pawn.
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    10 Nov '09 09:20
    Originally posted by clandarkfire
    I'm likeing this line more and more:

    [pgn]
    [SetUp "1"]
    [FEN "8/p4p1k/4r1p1/1N4P1/P1P5/1K3P1p/6n1/3R4 w - - 0-1"]
    1. Rh1 Re3+ 2. Kb4 Nf4 3. c5 Re1 4. Rh2 Re2 5. Rxe2 Nxe2 6. c6 Nf4 7. Nc3 h2 8. c7 h1Q 10. c8Q Qxf3[/pgn]

    If he decides not to trade rooks, we have a draw. If we follow this line, I believe we have a win. (Though it would take a bit more work)
    That was an excellent variation. We are almost assured a draw and have winning chances!

    46. ... Re3+ 47.Kb4 Nf4 48.c5 Re1! and 48.Nxa7 Re1! both seem to work.

    48.Kc5 slows him down (and doesn't accomplish much).

    That leaves only 48.Ka5 (dodging the Nd3 forks).

    I need to look at that a little, but for the time being, I really like this variation.
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    10 Nov '09 10:37
    Change my vote to 46...Re3+
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    11 Nov '09 12:21
    Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
    That was an excellent variation. We are almost assured a draw and have winning chances!

    46. ... Re3+ 47.Kb4 Nf4 48.c5 Re1! and 48.Nxa7 Re1! both seem to work.

    48.Kc5 slows him down (and doesn't accomplish much).

    That leaves only 48.Ka5 (dodging the Nd3 forks).

    I need to look at that a little, but for the time being, I really like this variation.
    48.Ka5 Rxf3 49.c5

    I can't make 49. ... Ne6 work. 50.c6 Rf5 51.Rxh3+ Kg7 52.Rg3 Rc5 53.Rc3

    Nor 49. ... Rg3 (winning g5) This looks very dangerous because white is getting so much time to push his c pawn. 50.c6 Rxg5 51.c7 Rc5 52.Ka6 followed by Kb7 and c8 looks dangerous.

    48.Ka5 Re5 49.Ka6 Rxg5 50.Nxa7 Rc5 MAYBE

    Does anyone else have any ideas against 48.Ra5?
  7. Standard memberclandarkfire
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    12 Nov '09 04:571 edit
    Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
    48.Ka5 Rxf3 49.c5

    I can't make 49. ... Ne6 work. 50.c6 Rf5 51.Rxh3+ Kg7 52.Rg3 Rc5 53.Rc3

    Nor 49. ... Rg3 (winning g5) This looks very dangerous because white is getting so much time to push his c pawn. 50.c6 Rxg5 51.c7 Rc5 52.Ka6 followed by Kb7 and c8 looks dangerous.

    48.Ka5 Re5 49.Ka6 Rxg5 50.Nxa7 Rc5 MAYBE

    Does anyone else have any ideas against 48.Ra5?
    I think black is doing fine after 50.Nxa7. I'm more worried about Kxa7 here, which lets white start to push his a pawn.
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    15 Nov '09 20:57
    Bump
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    16 Nov '09 13:33
    My vote is given for Re3 +
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    19 Nov '09 09:38
    Our move is Re3+. I'll send it now.
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    29 Nov '09 21:041 edit
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