I just read this problem in todays Irish Times where the author writes:
White has an extra pawn in this heavy piece ending but faces a seemingly long struggle to obtain a win. In the game however the white player found and played a short cut to victory? How did he continue?
He gives the forcing move order as 1. Rd8+! Kh7 (of course 1..Rxd8 loses to Qxc3); 2. Qf5+ g6 3. Qxf7+ Qg7 4. Re7!
However whites bank rank is very weak and it is actually mate in three after 4..Rb1+ so 5. Rd1 looks forced after the queens come off. Does anyone have the full transcript of this game by any chance? Sveshnikov is of course a well known Soviet player but can't find out anything about Platnik. Was it in the 1976 USSR championship? No record here: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=44139
Originally posted by micarrI don't agree with the forcing move order given for the given position.
I just read this problem in todays Irish Times where the author writes:
White has an extra pawn in this heavy piece ending but faces a seemingly long struggle to obtain a win. In the game however the white player found and played a short cut to victory? How did he continue?
[fen]1rr3k1/5pp1/7p/4Q3/4R3/P1q5/3R1PPP/6K1 w - - 0 1[/fen]
He gives the forc ...[text shortened]... he 1976 USSR championship? No record here: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=44139
If white's pawn was say on h3 or g3 then I would agree with it since the king can escape and Black would lose after 4.Re7.
Originally posted by RahimKThanks RahimK. I agree and was trying to find out if indeed there was an escape square for the white king on g2 or h2 if someone had the original game. Actually 1..Rxd8 is forced otherwise there is the mating line you mentioned after 1..Kh7 however black is still lost after losing his queen for rook.
I don't agree with the forcing move order given for the given position.
If white's pawn was say on h3 or g3 then I would agree with it since the king can escape and Black would lose after 4.Re7.
I looked the game up and the starting position is incorrect: White has already played: 24. h3
Here's the complete game:
1.c4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.d4 Nf6 4.e3 c5
5.Nc3 Nc6 6.a3 cxd4 7.exd4 Be7 8.Bd3 dxc4
9.Bxc4 O-O 10.O-O a6 11.Bg5 b5 12.Ba2 Bb7
13.Qd3 Na5 14.Rad1 Bxf3 15.Qxf3 Nc4 16.Bxc4 bxc4
17.Rfe1 Nd5 18.Bxe7 Nxe7 19.d5 Nxd5 20.Nxd5 exd5
21.Rxd5 Qb6 22.Qc3 Rab8 23.Rd2 Rfc8 24.h3 h6
25.Re4 Qb3 26.Qe5 c3 27.bxc3 Qxc3 28.Rd8+ Kh7
29.Qf5+ g6 30.Qxf7+ Qg7 31.Re7 1-0
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterMany thanks der schwarze Ritter! Can I ask where you found the game?
I looked the game up and the starting position is incorrect: White has already played: 24. h3
Here's the complete game:
1.c4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.d4 Nf6 4.e3 c5
5.Nc3 Nc6 6.a3 cxd4 7.exd4 Be7 8.Bd3 dxc4
9.Bxc4 O-O 10.O-O a6 11.Bg5 b5 12.Ba2 Bb7
13.Qd3 Na5 14.Rad1 Bxf3 15.Qxf3 Nc4 16.Bxc4 bxc4
17.Rfe1 Nd5 18.Bxe7 Nxe7 19.d5 Nxd5 20.Nxd5 exd ...[text shortened]... 24.h3 h6
25.Re4 Qb3 26.Qe5 c3 27.bxc3 Qxc3 28.Rd8+ Kh7
29.Qf5+ g6 30.Qxf7+ Qg7 31.Re7 1-0
Originally posted by micarrWhen you posted that puzzle it looked so familiar. I had a very similar one as part of my tactic training. Maybe it was the same one but I do rememeber that the white king had an escape square, and ya I see that the game posted had h3 played 🙂
Thanks RahimK. I agree and was trying to find out if indeed there was an escape square for the white king on g2 or h2 if someone had the original game. Actually 1..Rxd8 is forced otherwise there is the mating line you mentioned after 1..Kh7 however black is still lost after losing his queen for rook.