18 Dec 05
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Ok, I haven't figured this out on my own. What is the difference between positional play and tactical play?
The way I am seeing it (probably incorrectly!) is that tactical play is for the attacking player and positional play invloves camping peices about the board for either defense or a later attack...or something like that.
Can someone give me an explanation?
EDIT: I just ran across this link researching my question. Although he doesn't really answer it, it's an interesting read.
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=788054
18 Dec 05
Originally posted by tsantsaTactical Play is an off and on subscriber to this site with a very impressive rating User 155892.
Ok, I haven't figured this out on my own. What is the difference between positional play and tactical play?
The way I am seeing it (probably incorrectly!) is that tactical play is for the attacking player and positional play invloves camping peices about the board for either defense or a later attack...or something like that.
Can someone give me an explanation?
But seriously, tactical play is trying to win through combinations. Winning material or the king in just a couple of moves due to the intricacies of the position. Tactic are usually based around captures, and include things like forks, pins, discovered attacks, etc. If you play tactically, you hope for a crazy and wide open game where people don't care about much about the positional principles like pawn structure etc.
Positional play places much more value on the static positioning of pieces and slow manuevering. Positional players value a queenside pawn majority, better pawn structure, a safer king, etc. Positionally play is usually forced by a closed position.
A player can't always choose which type of play he'll use in the game, it's based on the position. However, he can influence the position through his choice of opening, and hope for a position where either positional or tactical play is more useful.
Basically, they're both styles of play. The positional player takes into account more lasting details about the position, while the tactical player mostly considers the current position. Of course, no one is only one or the other. But certain people have their preferences or strengths.
18 Dec 05
Originally posted by tsantsaNot really. Most Gambits are sacrafices which create inbalance in a position. Generally speaking an unbalanced position is a tactical position. The gambiteer generally gives material in order to bring their pieces out quickly in order to attack. There are exceptions to this of course. The Queens Gambit for example doesn't give white quick development, but instead attempts to take control of the center which is perhaps a more positional plan. I'd say that most Gambits i've seen are tactical idea's rather than positional idea's though. 🙂
Would it be correct to call a positional player a gambit player?
18 Dec 05
Originally posted by WulebgrAh! Succint, thank you.
Tactics are the means by which you aim for a positional advantage. Positional play is the essence of chess.
Gambits are tactical ploys to give up material for other positional considerations: better mobility, insecure enemy king, disharmony among opponent's army, etc.
So, why do some people call themselves positional type players and some call themselves tacticians? If you need a tactical advantage to gain a positional advantage is it just a mixture of both types to win and noone is really an either/or type of player no matter how much they like to say so?
Could you by chance link me to a game or two that shows the difference?
18 Dec 05
Originally posted by ark13That is a good post, nothing to add except that attacking chess players can only be found amongst amateurs like us and that possitional players do what the possition tells them (including attacking) while attacking players just go for an attack all the time.
Tactical Play is an off and on subscriber to this site with a very impressive rating User 155892.
But seriously, tactical play is trying to win through combinations. Winning material or the king in just a couple of moves due to the intricacies of the position. Tactic are usually based around captures, and include things like forks, pins, discovered ...[text shortened]... ourse, no one is only one or the other. But certain people have their preferences or strengths.
18 Dec 05
Originally posted by tsantsathe ultimate possitional player:
Ah! Succint, thank you.
So, why do some people call themselves positional type players and some call themselves tacticians? If you need a tactical advantage to gain a positional advantage is it just a mixture of both types to win and noone is really an either/or type of player no matter how much they like to say so?
Could you by chance link me to a game or two that shows the difference?
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=16149
the ultimate attacker:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=16002
19 Dec 05
Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardThank you. Just reviewing some of each players games, I notice a behavior.
the ultimate possitional player:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=16149
the ultimate attacker:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=16002