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  1. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    26 Aug '16 00:44
    I played this in the pub tonight, I'm sure alcohol affected my opponents responses but it's pretty anyway:


    Darnit, why can't sober opponents let me do that...
  2. Subscriber moonbus
    Uber-Nerd
    26 Aug '16 05:06
    10. ... Qh4 was perhaps played to prevent 11.Qg4+
  3. 26 Aug '16 12:16
    10...Qh4 (not the best see below)



    Played to stop 11.Qg4+ and hits the e-pawn with check.

    Could have been answered with 12.d5+ as 12...Kxe5 allows 13. Qd4+ Kd6 14.e5+
    winning the Black Queen. Or as is the game a few moves later 14.Ba3+ which surely mates.

    After an early h6 in an e4-e5 opening turning it into a Goring Gambit/Danish Gambit
    practically a tempo up seems the way to go. A drastic example is Game 11799377.

    7..Ke6 was deemed bad.


    But after the mess of the opening it's probably Black's best move.
    Every other King move gives White either a mate or a huge material and positional advantage.



    Instead of 10..Qh4, 10...Bb4+ and then Nf6 and try to hold on. (Remember Black is a piece up.)
    It can be done Game 4185659

  4. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    30 Aug '16 01:51
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    10...Qh4 (not the best see below)

    [fen]r1b3nr/pppp2p1/4k2p/n3N3/3PP2q/2P5/P4PPP/R1BQK2R w KQ - 0 11[/fen]

    Played to stop 11.Qg4+ and hits the e-pawn with check.

    Could have been answered with 12.d5+ as 12...Kxe5 allows 13. Qd4+ Kd6 14.e5+
    winning the Black Queen. Or as is the game a few moves later 14.Ba3+ which surely mates.

    After an early ...[text shortened]... 21. g4 Bxd2 22. Bxd2 Rxe1+ 23. Bxe1 Be6 24. Rd1 Rd8 25. Kg2 Bxa2 26. Kf2 Bb3 27. Rd2 Bc2 [/pgn]
    Hi GP,

    as you may have guessed my annotations were written just after the pub, sho I washn't ash shober as I could have been while writing them. While reading your comments I noticed that in the game in the OP 16. e5# wins the king and queen in one fell swoop without the need for the bishop going to a3. Thanks for your thoughts on the game, Ke6 just looked bad I didn't really look at the alternatives, but all my instincts are against moving the king to its third rank in the first ten moves of a game. I needed someone to point out the purpose of Qh4, although I saw the threat against the e-pawn in the game I didn't take it seriously because of 0-0 and Re1, and although I was looking at Qg4/h5 as destinations for my queen I couldn't quite get my head around the notion that my opponent did that prophylactically.

    I've just finished a game on this site in the related line 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 ed 4. Bc4 h6 5. 0-0 Bc5 6. c3 - started a fortnight or so before the game in the pub, I went wrong and dropped a pawn and feel my opponent was a little unlucky...

  5. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    30 Aug '16 18:54
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    Hi GP,

    as you may have guessed my annotations were written just after the pub, sho I washn't ash shober as I could have been while writing them. While reading your comments I noticed that in the game in the OP 16. e5# wins the king and queen in one fell swoop without the need for the bishop going to a3. Thanks for your thoughts on the game, Ke6 jus ...[text shortened]... extra queenside pawns do not make up for two pieces and that I still have an attack.} 1-0[/pgn]
    I just wish there was a pub around my neck of the woods where I could play chess and quaff a pint of draft. The ones around here are filled with rednecks.