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  1. 17 Aug '12 15:17
    A sad day for Russia, but a chance to see Kasparov on telly... even if he is getting arrested
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19300149
    (also not sure why the bbc has labelled it as "Africa", but there you go)
  2. 17 Aug '12 17:38
    Originally posted by morgski
    A sad day for Russia, but a chance to see Kasparov on telly... even if he is getting arrested
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19300149
    (also not sure why the bbc has labelled it as "Africa", but there you go)
    Kasparov was detained.

    http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/08/17/russia-detains-activist-chess-player?videoId=237127875&videoChannel=1
  3. 17 Aug '12 18:40
    Best damn tactician in the whole cell block, imo.
  4. 17 Aug '12 20:00 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by morgski
    A sad day for Russia, but a chance to see Kasparov on telly... even if he is getting arrested
    Even if you think that the women have been wronged, I have no idea how that constitutes a sad day for Russia. Russians must be very sensitive if this kind of thing can sadden the entire country.

    If this post doesn't belong in a chess-only forum, neither does the first one.
  5. Standard member Thabtos
    I am become Death
    17 Aug '12 20:13
    I think the fact that Kasparov is being detaned by state thugs is germane to this forum. I've known Russians all my life, and they're tough to the point that stuff like the PR protest wouldn't bother them. The only overly sensitive Russian I know is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, who is very sensitive to any criticism of his power base. I hope he isn't beaten severely in detention.
  6. Standard member patrickrutgers
    Pale Yellow Star!
    17 Aug '12 21:13
    Originally posted by WanderingKing
    Even if you think that the women have been wronged, I have no idea how that constitutes a sad day for Russia. Russians must be very sensitive if this kind of thing can sadden the entire country.

    If this post doesn't belong in a chess-only forum, neither does the first one.
    Despotic oppression has saddened other countries before now. Poland comes to mind actually... I hope Russians are as "sensitive" as any other people would be when they see their freedoms taken away.
  7. 17 Aug '12 21:33
    Despotic oppression and a two years of work for three law-breakers are two different things. This case is irrelevant to the issue of freedom in Russia. The outcry is ridiculous and obscures the real problems. I really don't think this is the right place for this discussion so I will stop here.
  8. 17 Aug '12 23:17
    Possibly the greatest chess player in the world has ever seen is thrown
    in jail and people are wondering if we should discuss it in a chess forum?

    Where else?

    Now there is no way I am agreeing to anything what has happened to the
    girld band or Kasparov.

    However each country has laws that differ from ours.

    I've never been to Russia, I don't know what you can and cannot do in a
    a Russian church.

    Maybe the girls were poorly advised and this was a publicity stunt that has gone wrong.
    (or right, perhaps this was meant to happen - Pussy Riot are guaranteed sell
    out shows when they do the world tour.)

    I've never been to Russia, I don't know what you can and cannot protest about.
    Apparantly very little.

    Kasparov knows the rules.
    He also rarely does anything without a plan.

    I've not worked it out yet.
    Possibly a book on games played against the guards.

    He will call it.....My Persecutors

    (I doubt very much anything will happen to him inside he is far too famous.
    and it is only for 5 days. I also expect the girls to be released very soon.)
  9. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    18 Aug '12 01:24
    Originally posted by morgski
    A sad day for Russia, but a chance to see Kasparov on telly... even if he is getting arrested
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19300149
    (also not sure why the bbc has labelled it as "Africa", but there you go)
    I don't understand why they can not leave the politics to the Politicians.
  10. 18 Aug '12 01:46
    It is sad for Garry, but I was glad to see him on TV this afternoon.

    For once that a chess player get some media attention, even though this story has nothing to do with chess.

    One may wonder why Garry, being born in Azerbaidjan from an Armenian mother, is so involved in Russian politics.
  11. 18 Aug '12 13:06
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I don't understand why they can not leave the politics to the Politicians.
    Because politicians are notoriously crap at politics
  12. 18 Aug '12 13:55
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I don't understand why they can not leave the politics to the Politicians.
    Because in Russia, "politicians" means Putin, means Stalin.

    Richard
  13. 18 Aug '12 23:39
    Originally posted by Shallow Blue
    Because in Russia, "politicians" means Putin, means Stalin.

    Richard
    "Because in Russia, 'politicians' means Putin, means Stalin."
    --Shallow Blue

    If you are seriously equating Putin and Stalin, then you understand less of
    Russian/Soviet history than I had assumed. If this incident had happened
    when Stalin ruled the USSR, would Kasparov have been released so soon?

    By the way, I think that this thread (which seems much more about Russian
    politics than playing chess or chess history) belongs in the debates forum.
  14. 19 Aug '12 02:00
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    "Because in Russia, 'politicians' means Putin, means Stalin."
    --Shallow Blue

    If you are seriously equating Putin and Stalin, then you understand less of
    Russian/Soviet history than I had assumed. If this incident had happened
    when Stalin ruled the USSR, would Kasparov have been released so soon?

    By the way, I think that this thread (which seems ...[text shortened]... e about Russian
    politics than playing chess or chess history) belongs in the debates forum.
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  15. 19 Aug '12 20:36
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Possibly the greatest chess player in the world has ever seen is thrown
    in jail and people are wondering if we should discuss it in a chess forum?

    Where else?

    Now there is no way I am agreeing to anything what has happened to the
    girld band or Kasparov.

    However each country has laws that differ from ours.

    I've never been to Russia, I don' ...[text shortened]... too famous.
    and it is only for 5 days. I also expect the girls to be released very soon.)
    But this incident was not about Kasparov as a *chess player*; it was about
    Kasparov as a *political activist*. Kasparov was not detained on account of
    anything to do with chess. Whether or not you agree with Kasparov's position
    in this incident, it's based on his politics or principles, not the chessboard.

    If we discovered that Julian Assange likes to play chess, then would it be
    appropriate to create threads in the "Only Chess" forum about his situation?

    "Where else?" you asked. Why not in the Debates (politics) forum?