Queens Gambit accepted.

Originally posted by dottewell
I've been surprised to see even good players fall into this one.

I`m new to studing openings, but I`m very interested in this one as black, what is the best countergame for black in this QG

Queen's Gambit Accepted is considered a bland response, but very safe...nothing wrong with it if you want to equalize right away and play it conservatively. I should know, I invented the opening.

I din't know if you have access to chessbase in any of it's forms, but if you do you can bring up all the 1972 world championship games between Fischer and Spassky.
There are at least two games where Fischer accepts the gambit and really makes it work. If you get a chance these games are certainly worth looking through, they give a really good insight in to this opening.

Originally posted by power mover
I din't know if you have access to chessbase in any of it's forms, but if you do you can bring up all the 1972 world championship games between Fischer and Spassky.
There are at least two games where Fischer accepts the gambit and really makes it work. If you get a chance these games are certainly worth looking through, they give a really good insight in to this opening.

http://chess.about.com/library/pal4/z72gbsrf/blz72g05.htm

This is the link to the first game fisher used QG

but i could not see one that he accepts the gambit

http://chess.about.com/library/pal4/z72gbsrf/blz72gix.htm

this is the link to the page where i found it, it is great that power mover sugested this games, they are impresive.

Apologies for the slight misinformation: It's actually the 1992 encounters between Fischer and Spassky where Fischer accepts the gambit. Although never victorious with this line, he pulls off some very honourable draws. ECO code D27. Like i say definitely worth a look.

Originally posted by NZDrifter
So far I have only played against below 1300 players. the all seem hell bent on accepting the QG and try hard to hang on to the pawn. . well there are a couple of approaches for white to make against this. QG is a "sudo" (its psuedo) gambit and if white wants to regain his pawn he can do so forcefully. As I demonstrate in this game Game 2187346
...[text shortened]... ents, lessons or games on QGA? It is a fascinating opening and I have alot to learn myself.

Thanks for the link, I play QG myself and now I know how to win back the pawn. As for my games, my opponents usually declinde with 2...c6 the Slav defense or 2...e6 the main line.

I'm a low rated player, so my advice may be useless, but I try to bring the Qc2 on QGA. It becomes an open file, and I think in QGA white needs to try for a queenside pawn storm, and Qc2 helps.

Originally posted by !~TONY~!
I play 3. e4 in the QGA, so this gives black the option of actually holding onto the pawn, since now Qf3 does nothing. I think the line goes:

1. d4 d5
2. c4 dc
3. e4 b5
4. a4 c6
5. ab cb
6. Nc3 Bd7
7. Nf3 Be7
8. Be2

Or something like that. White just develops his pieces on their best squares and ignores that he is down a pawn, since he has a lead in development and a strong center.

better is 3. e3 because after 3...e5

then can follow
4.dxe5? Qxd1+
5. Kxd1 Nc6 with a better game for black

or

4. Nf3 exd4
5. Nxd4 Nf6

and the position is about even.

Originally posted by chesskid001
better is 3. e3 because after 3...e5

then can follow
4.dxe5? Qxd1+
5. Kxd1 Nc6 with a better game for black

or

4. Nf3 exd4
5. Nxd4 Nf6

and the position is about even.

All of the QG games from Ficher-Spassky 1992...

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044744
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044743
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044748
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044750

Originally posted by chesskid001
better is 3. e3 because after 3...e5

then can follow
4.dxe5? Qxd1+
5. Kxd1 Nc6 with a better game for black

or

4. Nf3 exd4
5. Nxd4 Nf6

and the position is about even.

Of course white doesn't play dxe5, that's a mistake. I encourage you to look at some theory and some games on this variation. I don't play Nxd4 in the second line either. You play Bxc4!, which is a better move. 🙂

Originally posted by chesskid001
Thanks for the link, I play QG myself and now I know how to win back the pawn. As for my games, my opponents usually declinde with 2...c6 the Slav defense or 2...e6 the main line.

I'm a low rated player, so my advice may be useless, but I try to bring the Qc2 on QGA. It becomes an open file, and I think in QGA white needs to try for a queenside pawn storm, and Qc2 helps.

NoProblem! if feels good to be of help to someone!

I think Qc2 is possible but I think this then gives black the option of playing ...c5 (opening the c file) then later can play ...Rac8 with tempo.

Im not sure what to say about the idea of a Q-side pawnstorm... I think whites real advantage is the open lines and lead in development he gets on the Q-side.

You mention the move 3...e5 being strong with black. I completely agree. thats why I always play 3.Nf3 to prevents this. (plus it can draw less experienced players into committing even futher to trying for a hopeless attempt at defending their extra c pawn.

Originally posted by EnigmaticCam
Game 2148479

Even though I pulled off a win, I don't think I handled it that well when he attempted to keep the extra pawn. Where did I go wrong? I can't see it for some reason.

I think 6b3 is correct here.

Originally posted by TommyC
Really? Of what standard on this site?

Game 1555871

(It's a bit of a variation on the theme.)

Black blundered a piece.

Back to the discussion on Queens Gambit Accepted, I believe the main line is

1.d4 d5
2.c4 dxc4
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bxc4 e6
5. Nf3 c5
6. O-O

White seems to have the advantage here. What do you guys think?

Originally posted by chesskid001
Black blundered a piece.

Back to the discussion on Queens Gambit Accepted, I believe the main line is

1.d4 d5
2.c4 dxc4
3. e3 Nf6
4. Bxc4 e6
5. Nf3 c5
6. O-O

White seems to have the advantage here. What do you guys think?

This is a very common position in the QGA. An IQP will most likely result, so both players need to work on control of c4, c5, d4, and d5. For white, I'm looking at moves like 0-0, Qe2, Nf3, Bb3, Bc2, Rd1, etc.

I think both players have good play, so if there's any advantage for white it's slight.

Originally posted by chesskid001
Black blundered a piece.

Thanks, Garry, but I was answering someone else's question.