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question about castling

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Originally posted by heinzkat
Oh no, you aren't saying there are rules about RETRACTION for real chess, huh. 20 moves later calling an illegal move, would be called "pulling the SG trick" 😛
Go to : http://www.fide.com/component/handbook/?id=32&view=category
then to Laws of Chess, and then : -
Article 7.4a
If during a game it is found that an illegal move, including failing to meet the requirements of the promotion of a pawn or capturing the opponent’s king, has been completed, the position immediately before the irregularity shall be reinstated. If the position immediately before the irregularity cannot be determined the game shall continue from the last identifiable position prior to the irregularity. The clocks shall be adjusted according to Article 6.13. The Articles 4.3 and 4.6 apply to the move replacing the illegal move. The game shall then continue from this re-instated position.

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
For USCF, I think you have to return to the position before the illegal move, if the claim of an illegal move turns out to be correct.

It could be 20 moves later, and if someone notices it and claims it, you have to go all the way back.
Hmm, if this site is correct, the illegal move stands if it's not noticed within 10 moves:

http://www.dallaschess.com/scholastics/2001champ/tournamentrules.html

Item #36.

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Originally posted by vipiu
a cute real story(from wiki of Korchnoi):
During the match between Karpov and Korchnoi, an amusing incident occurred. In the 21st game, Korchnoi played a strong opening novelty and, after a blunder by Karpov, achieved an overwhelming position. During this game, Korchnoi rose from the board, approached the arbiter and asked whether he could legally castle king ...[text shortened]... match in the database, it is a nice one...I think the castle is the only winning move there...
So Robbie C is Korchnoi!
Can I have a game, can I, can I huh? 🙂

Point being, if even a top GM isn't clear about the rules, I shouldn't have made such a smart ass remark to RC. 🙂
Sorry

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
Hmm, if this site is correct, the illegal move stands if it's not noticed within 10 moves:

http://www.dallaschess.com/scholastics/2001champ/tournamentrules.html

Item #36.
FIDE rules. Other rules are variations, but FIDE still rules if nothing else is said. Says FIDE rules...

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
So Robbie C is Korchnoi!
Can I have a game, can I, can I huh? 🙂

Point being, if even a top GM isn't clear about the rules, I shouldn't have made such a smart ass remark to RC. 🙂
Sorry
lol, once you frequent the spirituality forum, receiving smart ass remarks are like honey to the lips, or kisses from Alexandra Kostinuek, or Innes and Gunn oak aged beer! simply divine!

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I always thought it unfair that I couldn't move across check if the potentially checking piece was pinned against its own king.

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robbie,

It is important that castling is considered a King move -- not a rook move. OTB, you need to touch your King first, not the rook or both pieces simultaneously. If you do touch both pieces at the same time your opponent could challenge the move.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
lol, once you frequent the spirituality forum, receiving smart ass remarks are like honey to the lips, or kisses from Alexandra Kostinuek, or Innes and Gunn oak aged beer! simply divine!
I'd take the kiss from Alexandra Kostinuek anyday over a smart ass comment. 😀
I have a thing for another woman player though, my heart belongs to her. ( Irina Krush)

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Originally posted by petrovitch
robbie,

It is important that castling is considered a King move -- not a rook move. OTB, you need to touch your King first, not the rook or both pieces simultaneously. If you do touch both pieces at the same time your opponent could challenge the move.
hey my friend, How are you? thanks for that, for it has always struck me how pedantic chess players can be, although rules are rules. just to let you know i tried the exercise that you gave me with regard to Kings and the related squares which i thought was rather excellent, and had wished that you should send me the result, or at least a walk through, but i did not want to impose on your kindness any further, - kind regards Robbie.

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
I'd take the kiss from Alexandra Kostinuek anyday over a smart ass comment. 😀
I have a thing for another woman player though, my heart belongs to her. ( Irina Krush)
kissy kissy!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
kissy kissy!
Nope, no tongues!

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Originally posted by trev33
personally i'd take the knight 😉

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Originally posted by heinzkat
[pgn][Event "Warsaw m"]
[Site "Warsaw"]
[Date "1844.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "F Alexander Hoffmann"]
[Black "Alexander Petrov"]
[ECO "C53"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "40"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.e5 Ne4 7.Bd5
Nxf2 8.Kxf2 dxc3+ 9.Kg3 cxb2 10.Bxb2 Ne7 11.Ng5 Nxd5 12.Nxf7
O ...[text shortened]... 16.Kg4 Nxe6 17.Nxe6
Bxe6+ 18.Kg5 Rf5+ 19.Kg4 h5+ 20.Kh3 Rf3# 0-1[/pgn]
nice

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I have one too, where I was the victim of Nxf7 O-O 🙁