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Originally posted by chessisvanity
pfft....1700 tops
oh yes because you certainly know what 1700 is like.

lol

though you are probably right... except about that traxler crap.. GO TRAXLER! 🙂. (and leafs)

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the traxler SUCKS!!!

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😠

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Originally posted by chessisvanity
the traxler SUCKS!!!
well if you'd change your status to more than 1 game or add me to your buddies list i would happily teach you the power of this opening?

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I don't know if I think ahead very much. I play by my guts ( "This looks good, that one doesn't" ).
As an example: If I have a chance to put my knight ate a safe spot, invading his sphere of influence, I do it without much counting.
When I do count ahead , I find my opponent doing other things that I didn't think of anyway.

I rather use intuition...

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1977, and on average, no more than 2 moves. but I'll go as deep as I have to when the position calls for it. although after 4 moves it usually seems quite pointless, and I can remember only one move against bbarr where the 5th move made a slight difference. most of my errors happen because I underestimate something 1-2 moves deep, not because I didn't look deep enough to see it.

endgames and highly forced lines are completely different of course.

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Originally posted by skeeter
skeeter / 2100 : against 1200-1700 out of book and end game database its 4 ply. min.
You do know using an endgame database is cheating, right?

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Originally posted by incandenza
You do know using an endgame database is cheating, right?
tablebase.

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Originally posted by wormwood
tablebase.
Yes, but there is nothing that "endgame database" can mean other than tablebase.

For example, Shredder calls their online tablebase an "endgame database".

I'm just checking, because it seems there are some people that are confused and think that is OK to use.

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Originally posted by incandenza
Yes, but there is nothing that "endgame database" can mean other than tablebase.

For example, Shredder calls their online tablebase an "endgame database".

I'm just checking, because it seems there are some people that are confused and think that is OK to use.
for example, you can search the fritz database for different kinds of endgames. there are probably others as well.

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Originally posted by wormwood
for example, you can search the fritz database for different kinds of endgames. there are probably others as well.
OK, but when someone speaks of being "out of endgame database", that doesn't really sound like what they mean, at least to me. With that kind of search, you could never be "in" anything in the first place.

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Originally posted by incandenza
OK, but when someone speaks of being "out of endgame database", that doesn't really sound like what they mean, at least to me. With that kind of search, you could never be "in" anything in the first place.
if you have fritz, open the database, then the endgame tab. all different categories are there, and most endgames ever played would fall under them. the db isn't that big though, but I'm sure there are better ones.

endgames are not like openings & middlegame positions. correct plans and theory are far more important than being in exactly the same position. when you find something similar, the chances are the same idea will work in your position.

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Well, all I'm saying is that the original statement sounded a bit odd to me. Apparently you see a different meaning to it, which is fine.

I'm just bringing it up because there seemed to be some confusion on the issue last time it was discussed.

In any case, the most common meaning of "endgame database" *is* tablebase, which is definitely not allowed. I'm pointing this out in case anyone reading doesn't realize this--not necessarily the original poster, who it's possible could have meant something different.

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Originally posted by incandenza
Well, all I'm saying is that the original statement sounded a bit odd to me. Apparently you see a different meaning to it, which is fine.

I'm just bringing it up because there seemed to be some confusion on the issue last time it was discussed.

In any case, the most common meaning of "endgame database" *is* tablebase, which is definitely not allowe ...[text shortened]... necessarily the original poster, who it's possible could have meant something different.
when we talk about chess, a tablebase simply isn't a database. in programming there's no relevant difference, but in chess the difference is critical. that's why nobody who knows anything about chess databases would ever call tablebase a database. only newbies will do that. it's simply impractical and misleading.

and skeeter's been around so long that it would be quite impossible that she didn't know the difference by now.

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By your standards, there are a lot of ignorant newbies out there, then. For example, the Shredder developers:

http://www.shredderchess.com/online-chess/online-databases/endgame-database-info.html

Also, the Wikipedia entry for "endgame database" redirects to tablebase:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endgame_database

In the first page or so of Google results, I can't find a single mention of the phrase "endgame database" that doesn't refer to tablebases. In fact, I can't find any reference at all that uses it in your preferred meaning of a Chessbase-style database with a few notes about endgame types.