Originally posted by Cblanca"2) Because USCF has nothing to do with RHP."
Then do you believe that if players with the same rating play each other; one from redhotpawn and one from the USCF, that it would be an even match, at least on paper?
Clearly the answer is we have no idea.
To larn about provisional rations. Try reading the FAQ.
http://www.chessatwork.com/help/index.php?help=faq
Originally posted by thesonofsaulI think you are a quick thinker, when I played you, you moved almost the instant after I moved
Different kind of play. Me, I'm not a quick thinker, so I tend to do better here than OTB. Could someone rated high in blitz be evenly matched with someone who prefers a slow game? Maybe, but it would have nothing to do with the rating.
Originally posted by CblancaYa can't really trust the provisonal ratings, so much. Your rating will probably go down next time if you win another game. After 20 games your rating is more accurate i think. When provisional status has gone. One reason someone's rating may go high quickly is because they beat a few high rated players.
Can anyone tell me how I could go from a provisional 1200 rating to over 1650 playing only 6 games? And why does "redhotpawn" start a player at 1200; I thought the USCF suggests starting at 900? Thanks for any help.
About your second question, i don't have a clue; but am really interested in finding out though. About what rating people are supposed to start, according to chess rules and stuff. Have been wondering 'bout that for awhile. I'd be fun/nice too find out what my true rating is.
In my opinion. Most internet chess ratings are a bit inflated compared to what that individual would earn in rated OTB tourneys, for several reasons. Number one is time control. If you are playing G/60, then obviously a slow correspondence player who is more comfortable analyzing a given position for a day or two may have a problem. Number two are internet players who may have a high RHP or ICC rating but have never been exposed to the rigors of a 6 rd swiss tournament.
And lastly (for the most part), are USCF or FIDE tournament rules such as "no touching pieces." Online you can pick a piece up, hold down the mouse button, and if you see something you don't like, you set it back down. A luxury you don't have in OTB play.
Also, let's not forget the cheaters and sandbaggers who frequent some internet chess sites. Just my 10 cents.
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Originally posted by AlphaAlekhinenone of that affects ratings. the metrics are just different on different player pools. one place uses apples, the other oranges to rate people.
In my opinion. Most internet chess ratings are a bit inflated compared to what that individual would earn in rated OTB tourneys, for several reasons. Number one is time control. If you are playing G/60, then obviously a slow correspondence player who is more comfortable analyzing a given position for a day or two may have a problem. Number two are e cheaters and sandbaggers who frequent some internet chess sites. Just my 10 cents.
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and it isn't inflation either. inflation happens within a single rating pool during time. like if someone was now stable at 1800 on rhp, but in a year from now scored 2000 without getting better at chess. that would mean there was inflation of 11.1%.
I understand your point, but like I said. That is MY opinion. And it does seem to me that if you can "touch pieces" online, and then not move them after seeing a blunder that wasn't apparent before, would allow you to somewhat make less mistakes than OTB, thus affecting your rating.
And as for me personally, OTB tournaments definately take more of a mental and emotional toll than moving pieces on a 2D screen, thus also affecting the rating.
Allow me to offer an example: A 15 year old achieves a 2200 blitz rating on say MSN Chess, having never before played in a sanctioned tournament. He/she goes in under the impression that they are Capa reborn, and proceed to get their can kicked by 16 or 1700's.
Don't get me wrong. I love internet chess. I especially love this site, since I have newly joined. I'm just raising issues that I have always thought of since starting to play online (along with the issue of some idiot using Fritz to gain a win that they can't possibly enjoy to the fullest). No insult to anyone is intended; just my thoughts.
Besides it is gratifying to finally find players online who actually have a good knowledge of the game. 🙂
Originally posted by AlphaAlekhinehaving played hundreds of games on poor MSN site I think that would be indeed a very realistic scenario. 🙂
Allow me to offer an example: A 15 year old achieves a 2200 blitz rating on say MSN Chess, having never before played in a sanctioned tournament. He/she goes in under the impression that they are Capa reborn, and proceed to get their can kicked by 16 or 1700's.