08 Feb 06
I play the english and one guy at my club treats it as a reversed sicillian dragon and plays a Yugoslav attack against it. Unfortunatly he is so successful that I feel i need to book up to have a chance. Does anyone have recomendations on how to play against this - anything I can get away with due to having that extra move, or good books for learning it?
Thanks.
08 Feb 06
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Originally posted by zebanoWhite can expect a slight superiority out of the opening by transposing to the Sicilian variation where he/she has played c4. It is my opinion that this position is not dangerous for Black because it is White who has made his white squared bishop bad by placing the pawn on c4.
I play the english and one guy at my club treats it as a reversed sicillian dragon and plays a Yugoslav attack against it. Unfortunatly he is so successful that I feel i need to book up to have a chance. Does anyone have recomendations on how to play against this - anything I can get away with due to having that extra move, or good books for learning it?
Thanks.
However, theory says that White has a slight positional advantage because he/she controls more space in the center.
08 Feb 06
Originally posted by arrakisThis explanation makes no sense whatsoever, since not only does the c4 get exchanged in a reversed Dragon, but the light squared bishop goes on the long diagonal. Having played the English for a while, I can assure you that this line sucks quite badly for black. I will show you:
White can expect a slight superiority out of the opening by transposing to the Sicilian variation where he/she has played c4. It is my opinion that this position is not dangerous for Black because it is White who has made his white squared bishop bad by placing the pawn on c4.
However, theory says that White has a slight positional advantage because he/she controls more space in the center.
1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. O-O Be6 7. d4!
when Black has a choice between 7..e4, which is a definite mistake on account of Ng5, or exd4 when Nxd4 yields white a healthy edge also. So you see, Black never actually gets to the desired Yugoslav Attack. In fact, no one plays like this anymore. It's unwise for Black to go into sharp lines in the reversed sicilian since the extra temp white has becomes more pronounced. Black almost always plays 6..Nb6 in this spot to prevent d4.
08 Feb 06
Originally posted by arrakisHe's not transposing to a Sicilian. It's being played as a reversed Sicilian; i.e. Black plays e5 after White's c4 so White's position is like Black's in a Sicilian but with an extra tempo.
White can expect a slight superiority out of the opening by transposing to the Sicilian variation where he/she has played c4. It is my opinion that this position is not dangerous for Black because it is White who has made his white squared bishop bad by placing the pawn on c4.
However, theory says that White has a slight positional advantage because he/she controls more space in the center.
08 Feb 06
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Tony,
This explanation makes no sense whatsoever, since not only does the c4 get exchanged in a reversed Dragon, but the light squared bishop goes on the long diagonal. Having played the English for a while, I can assure you that this line sucks quite badly for black. I will show you:
1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. O-O Be6 7. d4!
...[text shortened]... white has becomes more pronounced. Black almost always plays 6..Nb6 in this spot to prevent d4.
Thanks for the tip. However, he does play Nb6, and only them playing Be6, f3, h4, 0-0-0 etc. would you reccomend playing e3 in order to play d4? To me that seems to leave an isolated queen pawn while your opponent has a rook and queen on the file. Other than that I seem to play a competitive game, but my opponent is 1 step ahead of me.
08 Feb 06
Originally posted by zebanoThere are a couple ideas. You can set up your pieces as to dissuade castling long, Maybe a3, where the only way he can stop you from play b4 is to play a5, when he won't wanna castle long anymore. If he continues on with f6, then play b4 and Bb2, looking to play maybe Nbd2, Qc2, e3, Rfd1, and d4. I don't think all this stuff should really work out for black. Some sample lines that maybe I would consider:
Tony,
Thanks for the tip. However, he does play Nb6, and only them playing Be6, f3, h4, 0-0-0 etc. would you reccomend playing e3 in order to play d4? To me that seems to leave an isolated queen pawn while your opponent has a rook and queen on the file. Other than that I seem to play a competitive game, but my opponent is 1 step ahead of me.
1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. O-O Nb6 7. d3 Be6 8. a3 f6 9. b4 Qd7 10. Bb2 O-O-O 11. Qc2 h5 12. b5 Ne7 13. Rc1 Kb8 14. a4 when white play on the queenside looks faster and more dangerous. Blacks ..h4 is met simply by Nxh4.
1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. O-O Nb6 7. d3 Be6 8. a3 f6 9. b4 Qd7 10. Bb2 O-O-O 11. Nbd2 Bh3 12. b5 Ne7 13. a4 Nbd5 14. d4
Remember that action on the flank should be met by you busting up the the center. Notice that a quick b5 strike not only starts a queenside initiative, but prepares d4 by removing the knight. The problem here for black is that not only is he behind a tempo in the normal Yugoslav, but he is forced to play Nb6, which he really would rather not play. Those two knights on blacks queenside make really nice tickle targets for your pawns.