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  1. 27 Aug '11 15:55
    I've been playing this for few months and have decided to stop playing ita as i've come to the conclusion that its ether a death or glory type opening in so far I either butcher black about 30% of the time or my attack fails and my 0-0-0 king is crushed...not much in the middle - anyone else have experience playing the richter-rauzer?
  2. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    27 Aug '11 23:10
    Originally posted by plopzilla
    I've been playing this for few months and have decided to stop playing ita as i've come to the conclusion that its ether a death or glory type opening in so far I either butcher black about 30% of the time or my attack fails and my 0-0-0 king is crushed...not much in the middle - anyone else have experience playing the richter-rauzer?
    I think your experience is relatively typical. It's a "play for a win" approach to the Sicilian, and definitely not the tool of someone looking to draw!
  3. 28 Aug '11 19:12
    Originally posted by plopzilla
    I've been playing this for few months and have decided to stop playing ita as i've come to the conclusion that its ether a death or glory type opening in so far I either butcher black about 30% of the time or my attack fails and my 0-0-0 king is crushed...not much in the middle - anyone else have experience playing the richter-rauzer?
    Interesting thread is interesting. Not!

    I'm surprised you are still playing chess judging by how quickly you drop openings e.g. Thread 140575.
  4. 28 Aug '11 19:26
    Originally posted by kopatov
    Interesting thread is interesting. Not!

    I'm surprised you are still playing chess judging by how quickly you drop openings e.g. Thread 140575.
    jog on..
  5. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    28 Aug '11 20:25 / 1 edit
  6. 28 Aug '11 21:12
    "Try" the Four Knights Game and tell us how you get on. What a tosser.
  7. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    28 Aug '11 21:35 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by kopatov
    Interesting thread is interesting. Not!

    I'm surprised you are still playing chess judging by how quickly you drop openings e.g. Thread 140575.
    The Richter-Rauzer is a variation white plays against the Sicilian, while the Nimzo-Indian Defense is a black defense against 1. d4.

    One would not "give up" on one to play the other (quite literally a "black and white" distinction), and there is no indication in the other thread that he ever stopped playing the Nimzo against 1. d4, so the comment "how quickly you drop openings" doesn't make any sense, unless there is other information not indicated in the thread.
  8. 28 Aug '11 22:01 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    The Richter-Rauzer is a variation white plays against the Sicilian, while the Nimzo-Indian Defense is a black defense against 1. d4.

    One would not "give up" on one to play the other (quite literally a "black and white" distinction), and there is no indication in the other thread that he ever stopped playing the Nimzo against 1. d4, so the comment " ...[text shortened]... s" doesn't make any sense, unless there is other information not indicated in the thread.
    be careful or a little troll might come out of his cave and bash you with his bishop..
  9. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    28 Aug '11 22:11
    Originally posted by plopzilla
    be careful or a little troll might come out of his cave and bash you with his bishop..
    You are correct, of course, and I should know better. I won't make the mistake again.
  10. Standard member nimzo5
    Ronin
    29 Aug '11 01:07
    One of the better chess forums under seige...

    OP- When you identify an opening that gives you problems try playing through a bunch of games quickly in the lines that are causing you problems to get a feel for typical maneuvers etc.

    A couple years back I was having problems with the Alapin Sicilian (playing for a win against a lower rated player) until I played through several hundred games in the line at sub 5 min a game.

    Maybe with forced lines you are dealing with a calculation issue, but quiet moves are often the genesis of seeing a lot of games and leting intuition do it's work.
  11. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    29 Aug '11 17:06
    Originally posted by nimzo5
    One of the better chess forums under seige...

    OP- When you identify an opening that gives you problems try playing through a bunch of games quickly in the lines that are causing you problems to get a feel for typical maneuvers etc.

    A couple years back I was having problems with the Alapin Sicilian (playing for a win against a lower rated player) until ...[text shortened]... t quiet moves are often the genesis of seeing a lot of games and leting intuition do it's work.
    I am a big fan of this idea, and sometimes I carry it a step further, and I look at a large number of games from a particular GM who has scored well with the opening or variation in question. For instance, I studied every GM Edvins Kengis game I could find when studying Alekhine's Defense, as he is a true Maestro when playing it.

    And here's a little serendipity for this idea. I used to play the Sicilian Dragon, but I faced the Alapin (1. e4 c5 2. c3) most of the time, and didn't do well against it. I decided to play the 2. ... Nf6 variation against it.

    Since the games often go 1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5, I decided to study Alekhine's Defense to get used to the position to help against the Alapin variation. I ended up enjoying it, and after scoring well against higher rated opposition in two tournaments, decided to adopt it and retire the Dragon.

    You just never know where the game will take you sometimes.
  12. Standard member wormwood
    If Theres Hell Below
    29 Aug '11 17:45
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    I am a big fan of this idea, and sometimes I carry it a step further, and I look at a large number of games from a particular GM who has scored well with the opening or variation in question. For instance, I studied every GM Edvins Kengis game I could find when studying Alekhine's Defense, as he is a true Maestro when playing it.

    And here's a little ...[text shortened]... opt it and retire the Dragon.

    You just never know where the game will take you sometimes.
    I've come to love the way people slam in that first antisicilian move, even online you can almost hear the shout "aha! what do you think of THAT, dragon guy!" - then you get to blitz back the typical alapin moves, winning time, because the anti-lines are of course the most fequent lines you play as a dragon player.
  13. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    29 Aug '11 18:32 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by wormwood
    I've come to love the way people slam in that first antisicilian move, even online you can almost hear the shout "aha! what do you think of THAT, dragon guy!" - then you get to blitz back the typical alapin moves, winning time, because the anti-lines are of course the most fequent lines you play as a dragon player.
    "Ahaa! Mitä ajattelet, Dragon kaveri!"

    It seems to be equally true in Finland and Florida, and has probably been translated into as many languages as the Bible.

    I suppose this may be an additional reason to carry on with the Richter-Rauzer (and I remember when English speakers used to say "Richter-Rauzer" or "Rauzer Attack" vs the Dragon before the term "Yugoslav Attack" became popular)- so many Sicilian players see the anti-Sicilian lines more than the so-called main lines, and a well-prepared player on the white side may actually surprise black!
  14. Standard member wormwood
    If Theres Hell Below
    29 Aug '11 19:30
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    "Ahaa! Mitä ajattelet, Dragon kaveri!"
    heh. oh right, you had some finnish roots or something?


    yeah, richter-rauzer would definitely surprise me tons more than alapin, closed, morra, gpa or classical dragon.
  15. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    29 Aug '11 21:55 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by wormwood
    heh. oh right, you had some finnish roots or something?


    yeah, richter-rauzer would definitely surprise me tons more than alapin, closed, morra, gpa or classical dragon.
    I have genetic bits from all across Northern Europe (directly, maternal Scotch-Irish, and fraternal English-Welsh), but in this case, I have google translate!

    I put in one of my games in pgn, and learned how to say $#%^& in 48 different languages!

    In Florida, USA, the main line of the Sicilian is the Closed variation, but recently we've had a large crop of junior players who are playing the Scotch and the Open Sicilian and in general just going for the throat, like all good junior players should!