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  1. 13 Mar '13 20:07 / 1 edit
    So I am sitting wondering if the Sun is actually as faw away as they say it is because I can see it.

    I cannot see anything 50 miles away on Earth and yet they are trying to get me
    to believe I can see something 93 million miles away in space? Hogwash!

    When suddenly I get a PM containing a game from orfeo and orfeo
    wonders (this must have been the RHP wondering day) if this configuration
    of pieces….


    ….which appeared in his game has appeared anywhere else?

    A potential Blog idea so I run it through RHP and yes!
    Infact quite a few games including one very instructive game where all I’ll have to
    do is load the game into ChessPad and the notes will write themselves. (See next blog).

    So I am now wondering…..I’m always wondering…The call me Wonder Boy.
    If there is a good OTB game with the exact same set up.
    Again yes, first up is a game played by Botvinnik and then….Stop Searching!

    Ronald Weyerstrass v Allan Karman, Blaricum 1973.

    To the new guys here. Ronald Weyerstrass User 91723 was a number one
    player on here.
    He played loads of games beating expelled cheats and only lost one game.

    You have heard of Helen of Troy and the face that launched a thousand ships.
    (it was my wife’s face sent than back again&hellip
    Ronald Weyerstrass launched a thousand threads.

    In them days you were not allowed to say ‘cheat’ nor post match up’s percentages.
    If you did the thread was pulled and the poster forum banned for 2-3 weeks so
    innuendo’s were dropped all over the place.

    Banning known good players, and Big Ron is a C.C. International Master is messy.
    The game mods said there was evidence and eventually he was banned.

    Personally I was always swithering, so were Russ and Co.
    Some of his game were deep and ‘wow!’ and matched up very high.
    But I’ve seen some genuine C.C. games before computers and they too are ‘Wow!’
    Also he never hid his acual name.

    I think the clincher was wins v known and expelled cheats.
    How did he do this when even Kasparov cannot beat a computer.
    The sad bit is Big Ron never posted in the Chess Forum.
    Our loss, players of that calibre, and he got his IM before computers got good,
    have such a lot to pass on.

    Finally I must stress the reason he was banned was never revealed.
    We can speculate but the fact is we don't know why.
    (he may have sent a very very rude PM to someone to tell them to shut up.)

    Anyway, he’s gone, but not forgotten as his name often pops up.

    The final part of Ron’s game is exciting and it features a unique position where both
    sides are offering their Queen to each other at the same time and if either is taken
    then they get mated.

    Not sure if it was postal or OTB. My DB says this game was played along with four others
    against the same opponent.
    In my 70’s Correspondence Chess days I played 4-6 games against the same player
    at the same time.

    However I have excellent evidence to show it was an OTB game as you will see.

    Ronald Weyerstrass v Allan Karman, Blaricum 1973.

    We join the game with White about to make his 26th move.
    (though the PGN thingy will say it’s move 1. The actual move numbers in this case do matter.)

  2. Standard member Kepler
    Demon Duck
    14 Mar '13 00:11
    I think I have found the "match" this game was part of.

    http://www.365chess.com/tournaments/Blaricum_m2_1973/23411

    There are actually 13 games there, nine of which Weyerstrass played black. There are two more games against the same opponent from 1972. Blaricum is Weyerstrass' home town so this may be a sequence of games played in his local club. There are other games against other opponents listed as occurring in Blaricum.
  3. 14 Mar '13 01:30
    Well done, looks like it was an OTB game after all.
    Quite a game and an odd coincidence.
  4. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    14 Mar '13 02:10
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    So I am sitting wondering if the Sun is actually as faw away as they say it is because I can see it.

    I cannot see anything 50 miles away on Earth and yet they are trying to get me
    to believe I can see something 93 million miles away in space? Hogwash!

    When suddenly I get a PM containing a game from orfeo and orfeo
    wonders (this must have been th ...[text shortened]... oves in two hours. So having seen that Black reached Time Control White resigned 0-1.}[/pgn]
    You are wrong about Kasparov not being able to beat a computer. He beat many computers, even the IBM computer that finally beat him.
  5. 14 Mar '13 10:55
    The word on the street is that Ronald Weyerstrass has started playing OTB chess again. I'm trying to find a website for the league he's playing in, but unfortunately I don't speak single Dutch so it's taking a while.
  6. 14 Mar '13 14:50 / 1 edit
    "You are wrong about Kasparov not being able to beat a computer."

    Hi Wee Ron,

    I know but that was the general war cry.
    In one of the pulled threads I recall Big Ron getting a high % than even bigger K.

    The game mods using the same criteria which banned players who scored less
    than Big Ron supplied pretty overwhleming evidence.
    But then again those banned before with lower % scores than BIg Ron were not IM's.
    There will always be a doubt.

    Hi Fat Lady.
    I don't speak Dutch either, I can buy a beer and a women in most languages but not in Dutch.
    (Never felt the need, their beer is like cats piss and the women are ugly)

    What you need is someone who does!

    Not sure who speaks Dutch on here, some will say they do but the could be typing
    anything, how would we know what they are writing?

    So why not start up a thread called 'Holland is a Dump'".
    There is a good chance that those who disagree may speak Dutch.
    Is Greenerpawn not Dutch?
  7. Subscriber jankrb
    Conductor
    14 Mar '13 16:34 / 2 edits
    Ronald Weijerstrass is now member of the Larense S.C.
    His actual Dutch OTB rating is 2159.

    For those who can read Dutch (or think they can/) the link to that Club:
    www.larenseschaakclub.nl

    Our Grolsch beer is the best in the world!
  8. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    14 Mar '13 17:52
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    "You are wrong about Kasparov not being able to beat a computer."

    Hi Wee Ron,

    I know but that was the general war cry.
    In one of the pulled threads I recall Big Ron getting a high % than even bigger K.

    The game mods using the same criteria which banned players who scored less
    than Big Ron supplied pretty overwhleming evidence.
    But then again ...[text shortened]... here is a good chance that those who disagree may speak Dutch.
    Is Greenerpawn not Dutch?
    Whoever wrote that had an axe to grind against me and even if he were right about the matchup rates of Kasparov on some games being lower that does not prove that Kasparov did not play better moves than the computer, since he is able to beat computers. One can take enough surveys in the right way to prove about anything they wish. The political scientists do it all the time.
  9. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    14 Mar '13 18:00
    Originally posted by jankrb
    Ronald Weijerstrass is now member of the Larense S.C.
    His actual Dutch OTB rating is 2159.

    For those who can read Dutch (or think they can/) the link to that Club:
    www.larenseschaakclub.nl

    Our Grolsch beer is the best in the world!
    I would expect a player with an OTB rating of 2159 could easily pick up an addition 300 or 400 points on a RHP rating, if he applied himself seriously. That would mean a 2459 t0 2559 RHP rating in time, IMO.
  10. Subscriber thaughbaer
    Duckfinder General
    14 Mar '13 20:43
    Are we absolutely sure Ron was Ron ? Does someone who knows Ron ask Ron ?
  11. 15 Mar '13 02:45 / 1 edit
    Hi thaughbaer

    Ron was Ron, if not it would have so easy to ban for him impersonation
    as has happened a few times on here.
    He said who was in a club he was in. Nobody really doubted who he was.

    Wee Ron is right, though not in quoting his current OTB grade.
    Big Ron was an IM at C.C. so he already knew how to apply himself in C.C. games
    and eek out a small advantage.
    Some OTB players whose style rely on getting double-edge positions OTB
    will have to change their style for top C.C. play. The Young Tal for instance.

    I did Dougie Bryson's games in Rampant Chess.
    Dougie is a GM at C.C. (before computers) and an IM OTB.

    It was two different players. People who have the book will see me moaning
    about having to note up two high level correspondence games.

    I tried to duck out of it and I introduced the first game it thus:

    V Zagarowski - D.Bryson Corres Chess 1984.

    "This game was played by correspodence so to get the real feel of the game send
    me 53 stamped addressed envelopes and I will send you the game move by move."

    I then go onto the next game.

    Ruxton jumped in and told me I had to do it and stop mucking about.

    SO I had to dig out all the bits we under 2000 players could understand
    in a game that took 3 years to play.

    C.C. at the top level is a different and Big Ron was good at it.
    The question is/was how good was good on here.
    The feeling was by all the other good OTB and C.C. players he was too good
    and had a little help. The match up's indicated so as well.
    But again I say, we do not know why he was banned.
  12. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    15 Mar '13 10:58
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi thaughbaer

    Ron was Ron, if not it would have so easy to ban for him impersonation
    as has happened a few times on here.
    He said who was in a club he was in. Nobody really doubted who he was.

    Wee Ron is right, though not in quoting his current OTB grade.
    Big Ron was an IM at C.C. so he already knew how to apply himself in C.C. games
    and eek ...[text shortened]... lp. The match up's indicated so as well.
    But again I say, we do not know why he was banned.
    Do you know Ron's OTB rating?
  13. 15 Mar '13 12:08
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Do you know Ron's OTB rating?
    Jankrb mentioned 2159 in his post above, though I can't find any mention of Weyerstrass on the official Dutch chess site:
    http://www.schaakbond.nl/rating

    Perhaps 2159 was his last Dutch rating before he gave up OTB chess for a while.
  14. Subscriber jankrb
    Conductor
    15 Mar '13 12:33
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    Jankrb mentioned 2159 in his post above, though I can't find any mention of Weyerstrass on the official Dutch chess site:
    http://www.schaakbond.nl/rating

    Perhaps 2159 was his last Dutch rating before he gave up OTB chess for a while.
    After you entered that site, click on: •KNSB rating ; than press: "Rating viewer" ; than press on the top left of the screen: "Zoek ratinghouder" .
    Now you can type his name Weijerstrass (you have to spell it correctly!) + enter and you will get some details. His last registered game was played on
    2012-11-27.

    Jan.
  15. 15 Mar '13 13:55
    The ratings viewer didn't work for me so I downloaded the CSV file. He's in there as well, but I didn't find him first time round as I searched for "weyer" :
    5956401;Weijerstrass Ronald;;NED;2159;;1956;