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How should white proceed?



I was in this position in a club event Thursday night and missed the key idea. How would you fare?

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
How should white proceed?

[fen]8/3R4/3n4/5kP1/2p2b2/2K5/8/8 b - - 0 63[/fen]

I was in this position in a club event Thursday night and missed the key idea. How would you fare?
In that position, I think i'd just go for the draw....

RxN BxR KxP -- insuficient material...

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Yeah,me too.

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Take the draw ofcourse.

The black pieces are all tied together so well and the white pawn will chop.

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i agree

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
How should white proceed?

[fen]8/3R4/3n4/5kP1/2p2b2/2K5/8/8 b - - 0 63[/fen]

I was in this position in a club event Thursday night and missed the key idea. How would you fare?
Sorry, wrong position. Here's the correct one.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Sorry, wrong position. Here's the correct one.

[fen]8/3R4/3n4/5kP1/2p2b2/8/2K5/8 w - - 0 63[/fen]
Well white still needs to aim for a draw.

But he cant just play Kc3 or he looses.

A stalling move?

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Originally posted by Caro Kann
Well white still needs to aim for a draw.

But he cant just play Kc3 or he looses.

A stalling move?
Same thing really

1.RxN BxR 2.Kc3 and 3.Kxc4

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what if you do that and he moves his pawn up to be connected to his bishop?

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Originally posted by kmac27
what if you do that and he moves his pawn up to be connected to his bishop?
He can't. After Kc3 the pawn is on a light square and the bishop control the dark squares. The black king is to far and he has to worry about white's passed pawn.

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I played Kc3, and was lucky my opponent missed Ne4. After he drove my king back with the bishop, and snagged my pawn, I took the knight and offered a draw, which he felt compelled to accept.

It was a terrific game in which both sides--first white, then black--blew clear winning chances. Finally it ended in a draw when no other result remained possible.

Here's the whole fight. Enjoy!

[Event "Quads"]
[Site "River City"]
[Date "2006.08.04"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Wulebgr"]
[Black "The Kid"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A05"]
[WhiteElo "1618"]
[BlackElo "1614"]
[PlyCount "129"]
[EventDate "2006.08.04"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. g3 g6 3. Bg2 Bg7 4. c4 O-O 5. O-O d6 6. Nc3 Nbd7 7. d3 e5 8. Rb1
a5 9. Qc2 Nc5 10. b4 axb4 11. Rxb4 Nfd7 12. Bg5 f6 13. Be3 f5 14. Ng5 h6 15.
Bd5+ Kh8 16. Nf7+ Rxf7 17. Bxf7 Qf6 18. Bd5 f4 19. Bd2 Nb6 20. Bg2 g5 21. Ne4
Nxe4 22. Bxe4 g4 23. d4 f3 24. dxe5 dxe5 25. Qd3 Rxa2 26. exf3 gxf3 27. Bxf3
Bf5 28. Be4 Bxe4 29. Qxe4 Rxd2 30. c5 Nd7 31. Rxb7 Rd4 32. Qc2 Qc6 33. Rfb1 e4
34. R7b4 Qxc5 35. Qxc5 Nxc5 36. Rxd4 Bxd4 37. Rb8+ Kg7 38. Re8 Kf7 39. Rd8 Be5
40. Rd5 Bd6 41. Kf1 Ke6 42. Rh5 Bf8 43. Ke2 Nd7 44. Rh4 Nf6 45. Rf4 c5 46. f3
exf3+ 47. Rxf3 Bd6 48. Kd3 Be5 49. Kc4 Bd4 50. h3 Ke5 51. g4 Ne8 52. Rf1 Nd6+
53. Kd3 c4+ 54. Kc2 Be3 55. Rf8 Kd4 56. Rd8 Kd5 57. Rd7 Bg5 58. Rh7 Bf4 59. h4
Kd4 60. Rd7 Ke4 61. g5 hxg5 62. hxg5 Kf5 63. Kc3 Be5+ 64. Kc2 Kxg5 65. Rxd6
1/2-1/2

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
I played Kc3, and was lucky my opponent missed Ne4. After he drove my king back with the bishop, and snagged my pawn, I took the knight and offered a draw, which he felt compelled to accept.

It was a terrific game in which both sides--first white, then black--blew clear winning chances. Finally it ended in a draw when no other result remained possible.
...[text shortened]... e4 61. g5 hxg5 62. hxg5 Kf5 63. Kc3 Be5+ 64. Kc2 Kxg5 65. Rxd6
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1.Kc3 Ne4+ 2.Kxc4 Nxyour pawn.

Then sac your rook for one of his pieces. It works both ways but yes Rxknight is safer and to the point.

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Originally posted by Caro Kann
Well white still needs to aim for a draw.

But he cant just play Kc3 or he looses.

A stalling move?
Can someone explain how Kc3 loses? I don't see it. And the move I'd be inclined to play in response is Be5+.

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Originally posted by RahimK
1.Kc3 Ne4+ 2.Kxc4 Nxyour pawn.

Then sac your rook for one of his pieces. It works both ways but yes Rxknight is safer and to the point.
Not really safer - after ...Ne4+, Kxc4, then if black takes the pawn with either piece, white can trade for the draw immediately.

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i just recently played in a tournament and i was in a dominating position against a 1670 12 year old lol. well anyways i left him open for a rook for a bishop and knight trade and i was left with one rook vs bishop and knight. he denied the only file i could control with his bishop and knight and beat the hell out of me. ne ways i'd go for the draw just like everyone else said.

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