I (Court Jester-white) am playing (Chess20-black) in game #1153298. He keeps moving his Queen back and forth from 1A to 4G. He claims that he can do this forever? I thought that he could not repeat the same move more then three times? Can anyone help me with rules clairification? Should I just resign and move on?
Originally posted by Court JesterGame 1153298
I (Court Jester-white) am playing (Chess20-black) in game #1153298. He keeps moving his Queen back and forth from 1A to 4G. He claims that he can do this forever? I thought that he could not repeat the same move more then three times? Can anyone help me with rules clairification? Should I just resign and move on?
Originally posted by CrawlIceYou can't claim a draw by perpetual check. It is a way of forcing a 3 fold repetition or 50 move draw rather than a type of draw of its own.
He can claim a draw by perpetual check. You can claim a draw by threefold repetition. If no claim is made, you and he can make the same moves forever (actually, there's a 50-move draw rule that then also comes into effect).
My opponent in one recent game accepted a draw after I pointed out that I was able to to maintain perpetual check. It seemed to me to be saving time to alert him that I was going for the draw, because I was down on material, rather than waiting for the repetition rule and then claiming the draw myself.
I actually felt a bit guilty about the strategy, but given that I was expecting to lose at that point I felt that a draw was reasonable reward for pulling myself out of trouble.
Originally posted by CrawlIceIn a three fold repetition case, BOTH pieces must repeat threefold..
He can claim a draw by perpetual check. You can claim a draw by threefold repetition. If no claim is made, you and he can make the same moves forever (actually, there's a 50-move draw rule that then also comes into effect).
ex...
1 ...Qf3+
1 ...Kg1
2 ...Qg3+
2 ...Kf1
3 ...Qf3+
3 ...Kg1
etc.....
Originally posted by orfeoI did this in an early league game during the first season. It was an opponent about 440 points higher then me and he slaughtered my opening, I found a way to force the threefold, or make him sac a rook. I offered the draw, he was upset, but after it we both kinda laughed.
My opponent in one recent game accepted a draw after I pointed out that I was able to to maintain perpetual check. It seemed to me to be saving time to alert him that I was going for the draw, because I was down on material, rather than waiting for the repetition rule and then claiming the draw myself.
I actually felt a bit guilty about the strategy, but g ...[text shortened]... o lose at that point I felt that a draw was reasonable reward for pulling myself out of trouble.
Originally posted by orfeoNever feel bad about forcing a draw in an otherwise lost game. It's the opponent's job to make sure you can't do it.
My opponent in one recent game accepted a draw after I pointed out that I was able to to maintain perpetual check. It seemed to me to be saving time to alert him that I was going for the draw, because I was down on material, rather than waiting for the repetition rule and then claiming the draw myself.
I actually felt a bit guilty about the strategy, but g ...[text shortened]... o lose at that point I felt that a draw was reasonable reward for pulling myself out of trouble.
I've had it done to me (mainly in OTB games where I am low on time in a won position) and I'm not mad at the opponent for forcing it, I'm mad at myself for allowing it. Just as anyone you do it to should be.