Originally posted by allostery
I'm interested in learning more about the closed Ruy Lopez. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. Re1 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Re8 10. d4.
I played a game where I moved my b1 knight all the way over to g3, leading to this position.
[fen]r2qrbk1/1bp2pp1/p1np1n1p/1p6/3PP3/1B3NN1/PP3PPP/R1BQR1K1 b - - 0 1[/fen]
Is this good ...[text shortened]... Ruy, but I can't figure out why. Seems like a waste of 3 moves. Any ever played this before?
If 9.h3, how did the pawn get back to h2?
Black should have met d4 with ..Bg4. Also I don't think he should have played ..exd4. Why casually surrender the centre, having spent the first ten moves classically creating it? So normally the c3 square would have a pawn on it, making Nc3 impossible.
Nc3 in this kind of position looks completely fine to me btw. Often it manouvers to g3 or e3, to hop to f5 and attacking the black king - when, that is, c3 is unavailable. Other times it goes to a3, to attack the b5 pawn after a4. But if c3 is available, I don't see how it can be bad. You might want to buffer it with a3, to protect it from b2-b4 though - unless the hop to d5 is definitely good for white in reply.