I really don't pay attention to Engine v Engine matches as they're generally quite dull and don't really serve too well as study material. However, as anyone who has checked chessbase today will see, there is a minor classic of a game which highlights just how far computer chess has come. What do people think of this? If Paul Morphy was playing black here then this game would probably have been printed and reprinted hundreds of times. Black is actually down 4 pawns at one stage, but the piece activity is just mind blowing!
1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Bc4 Nb6 6.Bb3 c4 7.Bc2 Qc7 8.Qe2 g5 9.e6 dxe6 10.Nxg5 Qe5 11.d4 Qxe2+ 12.Kxe2 e5 13.dxe5 Nxe5 14.Nxh7 Bg7 15.Ng5 Bd7 16.Na3 Nd3 17.Bxd3 cxd3+ 18.Kxd3 Na4 19.f3 a5 20.Ne4 f5 21.Nf2 b5 { Look at this position. White has a materiel advantage but can it use it? Black is playing like Kasparov on steroids! } 22.Nc2 b4 23.cxb4 Kf7 { !! What a move !! } 24.bxa5 Rxa5 25.Kd2 Rd8 26.Nb4 Re5 27.Nfd3 Bb5 28.Re1 Nc5 { Ok Quick question. Given a choice, would you prefer white or black here? Look at whites pieces, everything that is in play is about to be exchanged, leaving two undeveloped pieces which are blocked in by the King. AMAZING play by black, simply outstanding!! } 29.Rxe5 Bxe5 30.f4 Bf6 31.Ke1 Nxd3+ 32.Nxd3 Bxd3 33.a4 Rc8 34.a5 Rc2 35.Bd2 Rxb2 36.a6 Be4 37.Ra3 Bxg2 38.a7 Rb1+ 39.Ke2 Ba8 40.Be1 Bd4 41.Ra2 Rb3 42.Bg3 Ke6 43.Kf1 Bc5 44.Ke2 Kd7 45.Kf1 Rb4 46.Ke1 Bd6 47.Kf2 Bxf4 48.h4 Bh6 49.Kf1 Rb1+ 50.Be1 e5 51.h5 f4 52.Rd2+ Kc7 53.Rc2+ Kb6
A link to the article..
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=8591
I recommend watching the video that is posted also... 🙂
Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics I was expecting a game between two players here at redhotpawn. 😳
Did you play through the game? It is a CRACKING game!
The analyst talking in the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xWdMqvGMxF4) raises an interesting question.
Given these new developments in computer evaluation of positions, are we seeig the beginning of a 'romantic' era in computer chess? Houdini doesn't just look at the material on the board, it is judging the piece activity and material position in tandem. It actually passes up a number of moves that would restore material equality in this game and in fact sacrifices further material! It's a very instructive game if you look it through a few times.. 🙂
Originally posted by Marinkatomb Did you play through the game? It is a CRACKING game!
The analyst talking in the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xWdMqvGMxF4) raises an interesting question.
Given these new developments in computer evaluation of positions, are we seeig the beginning of a 'romantic' era in computer chess? Houdini doesn't just look at t ...[text shortened]... fices further material! It's a very instructive game if you look it through a few times.. 🙂
Yes, I played through it (and gave it the thumbs up). I enjoyed it. Nxh7 is a computer move that starts the ball rolling. Most players generally don't grab those rook pawns like that. It's unbeliavable that there is enough time/comp for moves like Bd7 and a5. Being able to see that white is too tied down in every possible variation is another computer trait. It's shocking that black has enough time to pull this off. There's not really much else to say. I did notice that you ask which side is preferred on move 28. Black is actually winning a piece there by force. White has the compensation in pawn numbers, but his devlopment is nearly nil. Black is in the driver's seat all the way. If Rybka gets beat down like this, what chance does a human have?
P.S. In an unrelated question, is this the same Rybka as years ago. I remember a friend of mine used to boast about Rybka being the strongest and all that. Then, Rybka's creator got sued or something for ripping off another program (if I rememeber correctly). Did they have to go back and modify Rybka to stay out of trouble, or is this the same super strong Rybka from years ago?
Anway, that's a nice game, and I enjoyed it very much.
Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics Yes, I played through it (and gave it the thumbs up). I enjoyed it. Nxh7 is a computer move that starts the ball rolling. Most players generally don't grab those rook pawns like that. It's unbeliavable that there is enough time/comp for moves like Bd7 and a5. Being able to see that white is too tied down in every possible variation is anoth ...[text shortened]... strong Rybka from years ago?
Anway, that's a nice game, and I enjoyed it very much.
Yes i only commented because white is just lost (amazingly quickly as well).
Like i said, i don't really follow computer chess but the article says that this is the same version of Rybka that won the computer WC 4 years in a row! Apparently Houdini does something called 'stacking' (don't ask me what that is) which is something to do with disregarding certain lines after a shallow evaluation in order to follow more promising lines, sometimes up to 40 ply deep. It's no wonder it won this game if you consider this, it could have conceivably have worked out the entire game by move 15! 🙄