1. Joined
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    20 Jun '09 12:52


    Does anyone have any suggestions how to continue this line for Black? No this is not an ongoing game or anything I'm just trying to learn more about this opening and I saw this line. I'm not even sure what it's called or if it has some ridiculous name I won't remember anyways. Just curious what proper play is here.
  2. Standard memberno1marauder
    Naturally Right
    Somewhere Else
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    20 Jun '09 15:38
    Originally posted by tmstwrt88
    [pgn]1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4 Nf6 5. e5 d5 6. Bb5 Nd7 7. 0-0[/pgn]

    Does anyone have any suggestions how to continue this line for Black? No this is not an ongoing game or anything I'm just trying to learn more about this opening and I saw this line. I'm not even sure what it's called or if it has some ridiculous name I won't remember anyways. Just curious what proper play is here.
    It's not really a Scotch game anymore; it started as a Scotch Gambit but after 4 ...... Nf6 you're in Two Knights Defense territory. 6 ...... Nd7 is an inferior move not in keeping with the aggressive spirit of the "defense"; 6 ...... Ne4 is the "book" move. There doesn't seem to be anything better than 7 ...... Be7 in your position, when the usual follow up is 8 Bxc6 bxc6 9 Nxd4 Nb8 which looks kinda crappy for Black.
  3. e4
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    20 Jun '09 21:07
    Yup...4...Nf6 is the Two Knights. The Most tactical of all openings
    and that includes the King's Gambit.
    There is a trick and a trap at every corner.
    This is one opening were it really pays to study.
    You pick up every tactical trick in the game.

    It's Morphy's birthday on the 22nd of June - here is Morphy
    as White v the Two Knights in 1858. (opponent unknown).

  4. Standard memberExuma
    Anansi
    Woodshed
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    20 Jun '09 23:55
    Originally posted by tmstwrt88
    [pgn]1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4 Nf6 5. e5 d5 6. Bb5 Nd7 7. 0-0[/pgn]

    Does anyone have any suggestions how to continue this line for Black? No this is not an ongoing game or anything I'm just trying to learn more about this opening and I saw this line. I'm not even sure what it's called or if it has some ridiculous name I won't remember anyways. Just curious what proper play is here.
    From Lev Alburt - "6.. Nd7 is too passive. After the simple move sequence 7. O-O Be7 8. Re1 O-O 9. Bxc6 bxc6 10.Nxd4 Black has to move backward with 10 ..Nb8 because Bb7 is met by Qg4! with a strong attack.




    Nc3 is coming then f4,e5,Bh6, Re3, Nf5 etc are possible attacking follow up moves.
  5. ...who does not know
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    21 Jun '09 00:13
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Yup...4...Nf6 is the Two Knights. The Most tactical of all openings
    and that includes the King's Gambit.
    There is a trick and a trap at every corner.
    This is one opening were it really pays to study.
    You pick up every tactical trick in the game.

    It's Morphy's birthday on the 22nd of June - here is Morphy
    as White v the Two Knights in 1858. (opp ...[text shortened]... 4 16. Bxd5 Rf8 17. Qd3+ Kc5 18. b4+ Kxb4 19.Qd4+ Ka5 20. Qxc3+ Ka6 21. Qa3+ Kb5 22. Rb1[/pgn]
    Happy birthday Mr. Morphy. He makes things look so elementary.
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