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  1. 19 Oct '06 01:15
    Game 2614218
    on move 4 i had his queen trapped
  2. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    19 Oct '06 01:25
    Originally posted by 7ate9
    I realise most people do not consider setting traps in a game of chess good, because it wouldn't work against the top players in the world, people think they will become.LOL. I am never going to be a top player in chess, but play for enjoyment where setting traps is a part of this when playing against opponents who basically aren't that good anyway.

    If you ...[text shortened]... setting traps or God just makes it happen, then don't be shy to post. I'd love to see it...
    That's not technically true. Top players set traps all the time, the difference is that they don't expect their opponent to fall for it. Generally speaking, escaping from a potential trap often means you have to make a move you otherwise wouldn't have chosen. When you are forced to make a move like this, your opponent has at least won a tempo, and at best has forced you to position a piece in an inferior position. If you want to improve, you must analyse the outcome of a trap with best play. If your opponent comes out of the whole thing worse than you, then you have achieved an advantage. Strong players accumulate small advantages like this. Over the course of a game, these small advantages become greater until the position ultimately becomes winning...If their opponent does not achieve best play, then they win material.
  3. 19 Oct '06 01:34
    I don't understand the trap. If he moves queen to g6 (or somewhere else), what do you do?
  4. 19 Oct '06 01:38 / 1 edit
    Damn it! I need a larger database, if someone has it Palciauskas vs Andriulaitis, Sicilian Velimirovic Attack game is sooooo what this thread needs. Its a correspondence game too. Just miiiiiinnnndddd blowing chess with traps all over the place.

    If someone has it could they please put it up?

    Thanks.
  5. 19 Oct '06 01:47
    ---

    If the choice of 2 moves is presented to you:

    a) something which complicates the position (but with accurate play loses)

    or

    B) safe (even with best play) but gains little.


    ---if the trap in (A) is a sophisticated one, you are propably better off playing that moves, especailly in blitz.
  6. 19 Oct '06 01:49
    GM's set traps all the time but their intent is not for their opponent to fall into it their intent is to force them into that trap.
  7. 19 Oct '06 02:02
    Traps are fine as long as you don't base your whole game around them and compromise your position to set them.
  8. Standard member leisurelysloth
    Man of Steel
    19 Oct '06 06:02
    Game 2230972

    It was nice to get a cheap one against a higher rated player, and in a tournament game no less. Too bad he paid me back by crushing me in the other game. :'(
  9. Standard member Snowman606
    Playing badly
    19 Oct '06 09:17
    Game 2301285

    I was excessively proud of the way I got his queen in this game.
  10. 19 Oct '06 10:09
    Did anybody look at the game? Why is his queen trapped on move 4?
  11. Standard member BFM
    19 Oct '06 10:22
    Originally posted by buddy2
    Did anybody look at the game? Why is his queen trapped on move 4?
    It isnt
  12. Standard member onyx2006
    onyx2007
    19 Oct '06 10:35 / 1 edit
    sometimes traps pay off...

    even higher rated player fall for them...

    Game 2152635


    EDIT: I too am also prone to traps :-(
  13. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    19 Oct '06 11:31
    Originally posted by Bedlam
    Damn it! I need a larger database, if someone has it Palciauskas vs Andriulaitis, Sicilian Velimirovic Attack game is sooooo what this thread needs. Its a correspondence game too. Just miiiiiinnnndddd blowing chess with traps all over the place.

    If someone has it could they please put it up?

    Thanks.
    Try Kasparov v Topalov, can't remember the year/event. Kapa sites it as his greatest game. THAT is one serious game!!! It is the closest to chess perfection i have ever seen...
  14. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    19 Oct '06 11:32
    Originally posted by onyx2006
    sometimes traps pay off...

    even higher rated player fall for them...

    Game 2152635


    EDIT: I too am also prone to traps :-(
    I've seen that one before, it's beutiful.
  15. 19 Oct '06 11:36 / 1 edit
    If I set a trap and my opponent doesn't fall in the trap making my position be worse than before, it is not a good trap.
    A trap setup with a move that is not bad if the opponent doesn't fall in it but is winning if he does, then it is a good trap.

    In a clearly lost position it doesn't heart to set up a trap and disguise it well with a sacrifice or something. I've won couple of times but I cant give any example of it.