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09 Jul 11
09 Jul 11
Originally posted by AThousandYoung27. .... Q.b2
Should my opponent have resigned this one or played it out? I was down two pieces but attacked aggressively and he resigned. Was that the right call?
[pgn][Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com"]
[Date "2011.06.04"]
[EndDate "2011.07.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "AThousandYoung"]
[Black "ericmittens"]
[WhiteRating "1500" ...[text shortened]... 5xf1 24. Re1xf1 Ra8c8 25. Qc3h3 Rf8d8 26. Qh3h7 Kg8f8 27. f4 1-0[/pgn]
09 Jul 11
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI think he has a much better attack than you!
Should my opponent have resigned this one or played it out? I was down two pieces but attacked aggressively and he resigned. Was that the right call?
[pgn][Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com"]
[Date "2011.06.04"]
[EndDate "2011.07.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "AThousandYoung"]
[Black "ericmittens"]
[WhiteRating "1500" ...[text shortened]... 5xf1 24. Re1xf1 Ra8c8 25. Qc3h3 Rf8d8 26. Qh3h7 Kg8f8 27. f4 1-0[/pgn]
Guess he couldn't see how to defend and forgot he had an attack of his own.
11 Jul 11
2 edits
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYou both should have resigned. After the tenth move black should be fighting for a draw the rest of the game... trading off his good bishop and a couple tempi for your bad bishop? suicide... you seemed to have the right ideas. your knight was heading for d6 and you played g4 Ng5 preparing f4-f5 to try and attack f7, maybe it was rushed and tactically ill prepared but it seems like you just gave up on your idea and started farting around the board.
Should my opponent have resigned this one or played it out? I was down two pieces but attacked aggressively and he resigned. Was that the right call?
[pgn][Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com"]
[Date "2011.06.04"]
[EndDate "2011.07.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "AThousandYoung"]
[Black "ericmittens"]
[WhiteRating "1500" 5xf1 24. Re1xf1 Ra8c8 25. Qc3h3 Rf8d8 26. Qh3h7 Kg8f8 27. f4 1-0[/pgn]
11 Jul 11
1 edit
Originally posted by VelvetEarsnot much looking but 20.Bf3 seems to hold the immediate threats but if white can't generate some attack it doesn't seem like he has a chance.
[pgn]1. Ng1f3 d5 2. g3 Bc8f5 3. Bf1g2 Nb8d7 4. d4 c5 5. c3 Ng8f6 6. O-O e6 7. Nf3h4 Bf5g6 8. Nh4xg6 hxg6 9. Qd1b3 Qd8c7 10. Bc1f4 Qc7c6 11. c4 Nd7b6 12. cxd5 exd5 13. dxc5 Bf8xc5 14. Nb1c3 a6 15. e4 O-O-O 16. Ra1d1 Qc6e8 17. exd5 Rh8xh2 18. Rd1e1 {No Idea why the rook wasn't taken. I couldn't see a clear winning combination after this, I was just desperat way out of this. I was thinking 21.QC2+, followed by F3, but it fails to 21... NC4 I think?
12 Jul 11
Originally posted by tomtom232Bf3 still loses to Rh1+ followed by Qh2++, however that did get me thinking that Be4 does stop all immediate mating threats, however will end up with the king being on f3 which ain't ideal.
not much looking but 20.Bf3 seems to hold the immediate threats but if white can't generate some attack it doesn't seem like he has a chance.
12 Jul 11
Originally posted by VelvetEarsWhite is toast with good play by Black. But lots of tactics abound, and if Black falters, White could get back in the game. So with a cheapo still possible, as White I wouldn't have resigned at this point.
[pgn]1. Ng1f3 d5 2. g3 Bc8f5 3. Bf1g2 Nb8d7 4. d4 c5 5. c3 Ng8f6 6. O-O e6 7. Nf3h4 Bf5g6 8. Nh4xg6 hxg6 9. Qd1b3 Qd8c7 10. Bc1f4 Qc7c6 11. c4 Nd7b6 12. cxd5 exd5 13. dxc5 Bf8xc5 14. Nb1c3 a6 15. e4 O-O-O 16. Ra1d1 Qc6e8 17. exd5 Rh8xh2 18. Rd1e1 {No Idea why the rook wasn't taken. I couldn't see a clear winning combination after this, I was just desperat ...[text shortened]... way out of this. I was thinking 21.QC2+, followed by F3, but it fails to 21... NC4 I think?
21.Be4 would hold off immediate mate, but White would probably lose more material:
If 21.Qc2+ Nc4:
If 21.Qc2+, the clincher for Black is:
13 Jul 11
Originally posted by Mad RookGreat analysis. I completely missed Bh6, however I can still take the bishop safely.
[b]White is toast with good play by Black. But lots of tactics abound, and if Black falters, White could get back in the game. So with a cheapo still possible, as White I wouldn't have resigned at this point.
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If 21.Qc2+ Nc4:
[pgn]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2kr3q/1p3pp1/pn1b2p1/3P4/5Bn1/1Q4P1/PP3PBr/4RRK1 w - - 0 21"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
21. Q ...[text shortened]... me. White has almost dug himself out of the hole and still has a fighting chance.} *
[/pgn]
So I guess white was right for resigning in the end. Thanks for the analysis again.
13 Jul 11
1 edit
Originally posted by Mad RookAnd I think the black king has an escape route to the hills
[b]Sorry, I should have elaborated on this line a little more.
Here's another interesting line:
Edit: Just noticed blacks mating combination now fails, but a rook up should be a clear win.
13 Jul 11
Originally posted by VelvetEars
And I think the black king has an escape route to the hills
[pgn]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "3r3q/1p4p1/p2k2p1/3P1p2/2Q3n1/6P1/PP3PBr/5RK1 w - - 0 21"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
21. Qb4+ Kd7 22. Qa4+ {Only check} Kc8 23. Rc1 {Any queen move doesn't change anything dramatically} Kb8 24. Qf4 Ka8 {Safe in the hills} *
[/pgn]
Edit: Just noticed blacks mating combination now fails, but a rook up should be a clear win.[/b]