Should you be able to win a game by...

Marinkatomb

wotagr8game

Only Chess

18 Apr 05

Marinkatomb

wotagr8game

tbc

Joined: 18 Feb 04
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18 Apr 05

taking all your opponents pieces (pawns included)??

I read that in the 70s FIDE considered changing the rules to try and avoid so many draws at GM level.

What are your thoughts? Let's have a vote.

1. Yes you should be able to win this way.
2. No you shouldn't.

😀

Dfthd

Unicorn Equestrain

New York

Joined: 23 Sep 04
Moves: 19145

18 Apr 05

Originally posted by marinakatomb
taking all your opponents pieces (pawns included)??

I read that in the 70s FIDE considered changing the rules to try and avoid so many draws at GM level.

What are your thoughts? Let's have a vote.

1. Yes you should be able to win this way.
2. No you shouldn't.

😀

Err... isn't this already so? Well sort of. If you take all his pieces off you can just slowly checkmate him.

Redmike

Godless Commie

Glasgow

Joined: 06 Jan 04
Moves: 171019

18 Apr 05

Not sure I understand.

Are you saying that if you take all your opponents pieces it should be a draw?

XanthosNZ

Cancerous Bus Crash

p^2.sin(phi)

Joined: 06 Sep 04
Moves: 25076

18 Apr 05

Originally posted by Dfthd
Err... isn't this already so? Well sort of. If you take all his pieces off you can just slowly checkmate him.

Not if you don't have mating material.

Dfthd

Unicorn Equestrain

New York

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Moves: 19145

18 Apr 05

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Not if you don't have mating material.

Yes but I don't see how its not a draw then. There is no problem with drawing in general its just those <20 move GM draws that they have a problem with so I don't see how that solves the problem.

XanthosNZ

Cancerous Bus Crash

p^2.sin(phi)

Joined: 06 Sep 04
Moves: 25076

18 Apr 05

Originally posted by Dfthd
Yes but I don't see how its not a draw then. There is no problem with drawing in general its just those <20 move GM draws that they have a problem with so I don't see how that solves the problem.

Neither do I. I was just pointing out the flaw in your statement.

Dfthd

Unicorn Equestrain

New York

Joined: 23 Sep 04
Moves: 19145

18 Apr 05

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Neither do I. I was just pointing out the flaw in your statement.

Yeah but I assumed people knew about insufficient material to mate and that taking all his pieces off meant just that: removing all his pieces without checkmating.

flexmore

Quack Quack Quack !

Chesstralia

Joined: 18 Aug 03
Moves: 54533

18 Apr 05

i would like:
it only matters if you eat the enemy king ... and you actually do capture it.

this means ... 2 knights can win easily.

Jusuh

back in business

Joined: 25 Aug 04
Moves: 1264

18 Apr 05

Originally posted by marinakatomb
taking all your opponents pieces (pawns included)??

I read that in the 70s FIDE considered changing the rules to try and avoid so many draws at GM level.

What are your thoughts? Let's have a vote.

1. Yes you should be able to win this way.
2. No you shouldn't.

😀

I dont get the point. if you eat all opponents pieces, then at some point your opponent has to be mated (so that you can eat his king). and mate is game over.

THUDandBLUNDER

Joined: 29 Feb 04
Moves: 22

18 Apr 05

Originally posted by flexmore
this means ... 2 knights can win easily.

Nope, the arbiter would think otherwise and call it a draw, as two lone knights is insufficient material to force a draw.

Wulebgr

Angler

River City

Joined: 08 Dec 04
Moves: 16907

18 Apr 05

If you've captured all your opponent's pieces and pawns, but her king stands in front of your last pawn, it is a draw, as it should be.

Let's keep the basic rules as they are.

ark13

Enola Straight

mouse mouse mouse

Joined: 16 Jan 05
Moves: 12804

18 Apr 05

Originally posted by flexmore
i would like:
it only matters if you eat the enemy king ... and you actually do capture it.

this means ... 2 knights can win easily.

If 2 knights can't checkmate, how can they "eat" the enemy king easily? Unless you're suggesting that the stalemate rule be changed as well.

Dfthd

Unicorn Equestrain

New York

Joined: 23 Sep 04
Moves: 19145

18 Apr 05

Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
Nope, the arbiter would think otherwise and call it a draw, as two lone knights is insufficient material to force a draw.

I had one guy bringing me to move 120+ because he said he could checkmate me using 2 knights and I said he couldn't and he wanted to prove that he could and he didn't.

AThousandYoung

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18 Apr 05

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Originally posted by ark13
If 2 knights can't checkmate, how can they "eat" the enemy king easily? Unless you're suggesting that the stalemate rule be changed as well.

The reason two Knights cannot checkmate might be that the enemy King cannot move into check. I'm guessing the proposal is that stalemate be removed.

Bowmann

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RHP IQ

Joined: 17 Mar 05
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18 Apr 05

Originally posted by marinakatomb
taking all your opponents pieces (pawns included)??

I read that in the 70s FIDE considered changing the rules to try and avoid so many draws at GM level.

What are your thoughts? Let's have a vote.

1. Yes you should be able to win this way.
2. No you shouldn't.

😀

April Fool, perhaps?

It was tried this year too:

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2303