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Originally posted by Bowmann
April Fool, perhaps?

It was tried this year too:

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2303
Not quite.


"Okay, let's leave it at that – with apologies to the hundreds who are not being quoted here. Actually most will be relieved, because, as it turns out:

The "Draws are banned" story was perfectly true! Every last word of it.
At the Super-GM tournament in Sofia the participants will not be allowed
to offer draws, only the arbiter can do that.


So that article was not an April Fool's prank."



http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2303

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
The reason two Knights cannot checkmate might be that the enemy King cannot move into check. I'm guessing the proposal is that stalemate be removed.
I think its possible..
http://www.anadune.com/chess/endgames/knn_k.html

I'm still trying to find an example of how they got to that point though.

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Originally posted by MIODude
I think its possible..
http://www.anadune.com/chess/endgames/knn_k.html

I'm still trying to find an example of how they got to that point though.
Its only possible if the defending side misplays it.
There is no forced mate with 2 knights.
Now, if the defending side has a pawn, it is sometimes possible, because there's no stalemate option.

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so.. very possible against me then?

somedays., I'm surprised I can't blunder myself into checkmate with just 1 knight

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Originally posted by MIODude
so.. very possible against me then?

somedays., I'm surprised I can't blunder myself into checkmate with just 1 knight
You can get mated with 1 knight if you have a rook pawn and a crappy position.

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Originally posted by marinakatomb
taking all your opponents pieces (pawns included)??

I read that in the 70s FIDE considered changing the rules to try and avoid so many draws at GM level.

What are your thoughts? Let's have a vote.

1. Yes you should be able to win this way.
2. No you shouldn't.

😀
This reminds me of the bare King rule that existed in the old rules of chess. With Queens limited to one diagonal square per move, and Bishops to a leaping, two-diagonal square move, there were not nearly as many wins by checkmate.

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In Stanley Random (SR) Chess it is possible for one side to force a win with just the two Kings on the board. This of course applies only to certain local variations and is merely a consequence of the modernising of the rules in the late eighteenth century.

Under European rules, however, the King vs. King endgame is more often than not a theoretical draw.

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Originally posted by Bowmann
In Stanley Random (SR) Chess it is possible for one side to force a win with just the two Kings on the board. This of course applies only to certain local variations and is merely a consequence of the modernising of the rules in the late eighteenth century.

Under European rules, however, the King vs. King endgame is more often than not a theoretical draw.
One point that is perhaps missed is that K + N vs. K would be a win for the side with a Knight under the old rules, even though the Knight's move has not changed.

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Originally posted by MIODude
I think its possible..
http://www.anadune.com/chess/endgames/knn_k.html

I'm still trying to find an example of how they got to that point though.
Yeah, it a bogus position. Maybe one a low rated player might move into... but if we are going to consider stupid moves by opponents then the position is WORTHLESS! 😛

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
The reason two Knights cannot checkmate might be that the enemy King cannot move into check. I'm guessing the proposal is that stalemate be removed.
Well two knights can actually checkmate with a little help from your opponent:

1.Nf6+ Kh8!! 2.Nf7 #
EDITED: And to think I missed an entire page before posting this 🙂

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Originally posted by Dfthd
I had one guy bringing me to move 120+ because he said he could checkmate me using 2 knights and I said he couldn't and he wanted to prove that he could and he didn't.
You've got my sympathy there. As the above post shows checkmate is possible with two knights and no other material, but only if the king is already in a mating net. It can't be forced from an arbitrary position.

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King + 3 Horseys vs. King is a win, though a little tricky, and with 4 it's fairly straightforward.

As we all know, checkmate with 5 or more Horseys is a piece of cake.