30 Aug '07 01:29>
What are the positional implications of the different responses:
Bd7;
Nd7;
Nc6?
Bd7;
Nd7;
Nc6?
Originally posted by SquelchbelchLet's see what the others have to say.
Ok, fair enough.
I've played against this at least twice - I'll try to dig the games up.
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Game 2618138
I think after:
[b]1.e4...c5
2.Nf3...d6
3.Bb5+?!
I would instinctively play
3...Bd7 simply because
a) 3...Nc6? leads to 4.Bxc6+...bxc6 which lumbers black with poor development & doubled c-pawns. The usual Sicilian ...[text shortened]... lack's position open with ...N6c to follow at some stage later.
That good enough for you?[/b]
Originally posted by SquelchbelchI would not mark 3.Bb5+ with ?! - its solid opening choice played by some GMs.
Ok, fair enough.
I've played against this at least twice - I'll try to dig the games up.
[edit]
Game 2618138
Game 2939355
I think after:
[b]1.e4...c5
2.Nf3...d6
3.Bb5+?!
I would instinctively play
3...Bd7 simply because
a) 3...Nc6? leads to 4.Bxc6+...bxc6 which lumbers black with poor development & doubled c-pawns. ...[text shortened]... lack's position open with ...N6c to follow at some stage later.
That good enough for you?[/b]
Originally posted by ouwe belgI don't understand the rationale behind white getting rid of such an active piece as your light-square B so early, with black's pawn structure as it is.
I'd just like to say that 3...,Bd7 4.Bxd7,Qxd7 by no means makes White look foolish.White's whole point of the Bb5 line is to trade his bishop!
I find it particularly useful when white then opts for the so called Maroczy bind,with 5.c4, as otherwise the light squared bishop is of little use being hemmed in by it's own pawns while Black's would be very useful in attacking the bind.
Originally posted by SquelchbelchIf White goes for the Maroczy bind that light-squared bishop isn't active at all.If he opts for another setup I'm in the same boat as you,I don't fully understand the rationale behind it either 🙂
I don't understand the rationale behind white getting rid of such an active piece as your light-square B so early, with black's pawn structure as it is.
Maybe I don't fully understand the reasons - after all, I tend to play 1...e5 now & avoid 99% of the Sicililan lines as white.
I rub my hands when someone plays this against me - active counterplay is almost guaranteed for black in these lines.
Originally posted by SquelchbelchNo, it isn't.
Ok, fair enough.
I've played against this at least twice - I'll try to dig the games up.
[edit]
Game 2618138
Game 2939355
I think after:
[b]1.e4...c5
2.Nf3...d6
3.Bb5+?!
I would instinctively play
3...Bd7 simply because
a) 3...Nc6? leads to 4.Bxc6+...bxc6 which lumbers black with poor development & doubled c-pawns. ...[text shortened]... lack's position open with ...N6c to follow at some stage later.
That good enough for you?[/b]
Originally posted by Squelchbelch3...Nc6 has been played by Topolov on many occasions, apparently he is quite good at chess 😉
Ok, fair enough.
I've played against this at least twice - I'll try to dig the games up.
[edit]
Game 2618138
Game 2939355
I think after:
[b]1.e4...c5
2.Nf3...d6
3.Bb5+?!
I would instinctively play
3...Bd7 simply because
a) 3...Nc6? leads to 4.Bxc6+...bxc6 which lumbers black with poor development & doubled c-pawns. lack's position open with ...N6c to follow at some stage later.
That good enough for you?[/b]
Originally posted by najdorfslayerAah, but would you recommend 3...Nc6 for a -1600?
3...Nc6 has been played by Topolov on many occasions, apparently he is quite good at chess 😉
3...Nd7 is probably the must fun to play
3...Bd7 is probably the most safe way to play
Originally posted by SquelchbelchI don't understand you. You're a 1600 player, no doubt a mediocre amateur, yet you talk like your an experienced master. I think anyone who asks for advice and listens to you will be lead far astray and be unable to follow their own ideas.
Ok, fair enough.
I've played against this at least twice - I'll try to dig the games up.
[edit]
Game 2618138
Game 2939355
I think after:
[b]1.e4...c5
2.Nf3...d6
3.Bb5+?!
I would instinctively play
3...Bd7 simply because
a) 3...Nc6? leads to 4.Bxc6+...bxc6 which lumbers black with poor development & doubled c-pawns. ...d5 but again, that is just not for me - though I understand it is a reasonable response [/b]