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  1. Standard member Freddie2008
    9 Edits
    03 Apr '06 17:27
    Along the same lines as the Discovered Mate thead; post any smothered mates you have had. I am about to get my first one, I'll post the link when it is finished, but I'm curious to see if there are any really nice ones out there. I'm a bit bias because I think mine is awesomely pretty.
  2. 03 Apr '06 17:52
    .... a Queen-sac, RxQ, next move mate.

    Pretty? yes, something new not seens before? no...
  3. Standard member Kirwan
    Mel Kirwan
    03 Apr '06 17:53
    Originally posted by Freddie2006
    Along the same lines as the Discovered Mate thead; post any smothered mates you have had. I am about to get my first one, I'll post the link when it is finished, but I'm curious to see if there are any really nice ones out there. I'm a bit bias because I think mine is awesomely pretty.
    Game 1635121
  4. 03 Apr '06 18:06
    I had a Quick look through your Games and found this one....

    Game 1789888

    I know you shouldn't comment on games in progress, but 2 ply from mate its as good as finished....

    Indeed, its smothered mate....and it does look pretty....

    BUT: -

    after move 22. Nh7 you had smothered mate with Ng6#

    which of course means your Queen-sac was unecessary....

    infact, all it did was make the game go on longer than it needed too....so when you think like that, the 'beauty' in the Queen sac is somewhat diminished...

    unless of course, I found the wrong game??
  5. Standard member Freddie2008
    9 Edits
    03 Apr '06 18:12
    Originally posted by Shinidoki
    I had a Quick look through your Games and found this one....

    Game 1789888

    I know you shouldn't comment on games in progress, but 2 ply from mate its as good as finished....

    Indeed, its smothered mate....and it does look pretty....

    BUT: -

    after move 22. Nh7 you had smothered mate with Ng6#

    which of course means your Queen-sac was u ...[text shortened]... uty' in the Queen sac is somewhat diminished...

    unless of course, I found the wrong game??
    No you didn't find the wrong game. But Ng6# wouldn't have been a smothered mate; unless I am missing something or have the definition wrong.
  6. 03 Apr '06 18:15
    why do people go through other peoples games?

    have they nothing better to do. like play a game, do some tactics work maybe or at least look through a game which they might learn something from. ect. ect....
  7. 03 Apr '06 18:48
    Originally posted by trevor33
    why do people go through other peoples games?

    have they nothing better to do. like play a game, do some tactics work maybe or at least look through a game which they might learn something from. ect. ect....
    It's interesting to see how other people play. Often I can learn more from an 1800 than I can from a grandmaster (their tactics & strategies are more understandable to me).
  8. 03 Apr '06 18:49
    Originally posted by trevor33
    why do people go through other peoples games?

    have they nothing better to do. like play a game, do some tactics work maybe or at least look through a game which they might learn something from. ect. ect....
    Yes Fredie I'm wrong, Its mate but not smothered.....I must have got confused due to Nh7 (black mating himself)

    And trev 33...

    I do it because I can.....

    You can look through someones games to get a "feel" for the strength and style of your oppenant, which can give you and idea of what your up against....

    And I completly disagree with your next claim.....I can learn things from going through the games of similiar strength players....

    afterall, Going through as Kasparov vs. Krammik game often leaves you learning nothing, because you can't understand for the life of you why a5 was better than Nxh6....the tactics are too complex for me to grasp....

    BUT a game by a 1900, I can often follow and with thought and consideration, can understand, Unlike the mighty kasparov...
  9. 03 Apr '06 18:50
    Originally posted by Freddie2006
    Along the same lines as the Discovered Mate thead; post any smothered mates you have had. I am about to get my first one, I'll post the link when it is finished, but I'm curious to see if there are any really nice ones out there. I'm a bit bias because I think mine is awesomely pretty.
    My best was an OTB game (sorry I'm at work so I can't post it) where this 1300 rated 13 year old pressured me for 18 moves then gave away the initiative. I sacced my queen about 10 moves later and smother matted him.
  10. 03 Apr '06 20:52
    Not one of mine, but I noticed this while I was playing the person in question in another game. I thought it was a lovely finish.

    Game 1521275
  11. 11 Apr '06 20:45 / 1 edit
    Had one for the first time today luckily on PlayChess after a very crappy game.

    Alfilrm (1182) - John45672 (1175) [D00]
    Rated game, 10m + 1s Main Playing Hall, 11.04.2006

    1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bf4 e6 4.a3 Bd6 5.Bxd6 Qxd6 6.e3 Bd7 7.Nf3 0-0 8.Bd3 Na6 9.Ne5 Nb8 10.0-0 Bc6 11.f3 Nbd7 12.Nxc6 bxc6 13.e4 dxe4 14.fxe4 Qxd4+ 15.Rf2 Rab8 16.Ne2 Qxb2 17.e5 Nxe5 18.Qc1 Nxd3 19.cxd3 Qb3 20.Qxc6 Ng4 21.Rff1 Qxd3 22.Nf4 Qe3+ 23.Kh1 Nf2+ 24.Kg1 Nh3+ 25.Kh1 Qg1+ 26.Rxg1 Nf2# 0-1
  12. 11 Apr '06 20:56
  13. 12 Apr '06 03:16
    I was denied the mate by an entirely reasonable resignation, and there's a fair bit of, ahem, optimistic play in the midgame, but here's one I liked the ending of:

    Game 1818980