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  1. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    03 Aug '14 02:15 / 1 edit
    Where did I mess up first?



    Mikelom is usually 2100 or so, but had medical issues. He is white here. What could I have done better?
  2. Donation ketchuplover
    G.O.A.T.
    03 Aug '14 08:49
    Did you ponder 6...g5?
  3. 03 Aug '14 09:14 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Where did I mess up first?

    [pgn][Black "sonhouse"]
    [WhiteRating "1694"]
    [BlackRating "1715"]
    [WhiteElo "1694"]
    [BlackElo "1715"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [GameId "10717229"]

    1. d4 e5 2. Ng1f3 e4 3. Nf3g5 f5 4. Bc1f4 Ng8f6 5. e3 h6 6. Ng5h3 d5 7. Nb1c3 c6 8. a3 Nb8d7 9. Bf1e2 Qd8e7 10. O-O Qe7e6 11. Bf4c7 Bf8d6 12. Nh3f4 Bd6xf4 13. Bc7xf4 g5 14. Bf4c7 O-O ...[text shortened]... is usually 2100 or so, but had medical issues. He is white here. What could I have done better?
    why did you exchange your dark squared bishop for the knight? It seems that its pretty much forced because of the position of your queen, I don't like ...Qe7, white wins the game essentially by taking advantage of the h2-b8 diagonal, once your dark squared bishop is gone its white counterpart cuts through your position, that accompanied by threats of the knight taking advantage of the position of the queen , the weakness of the g6 square after you kicked the knight spells doom.
  4. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    03 Aug '14 17:15 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    why did you exchange your dark squared bishop for the knight? It seems that its pretty much forced because of the position of your queen, I don't like ...Qe7, white wins the game essentially by taking advantage of the h2-b8 diagonal, once your dark squared bishop is gone its white counterpart cuts through your position, that accompanied by threats o ...[text shortened]... e position of the queen , the weakness of the g6 square after you kicked the knight spells doom.
    Yeah, kicking the knight out and leaving g6 unprotected wasn't good in retrospect. And move 12 was the defining moment of the game, forced to take knight leaving him with a powerful bishop.

    Couldn't go e7 with queen, that falls to the knight forking queen and rook.
    Q-f7 loses bishop. I'm cooked by move 12. So 11 B-f7 should be answered by what? Clearly my bishop up was no good.
  5. 03 Aug '14 19:02 / 1 edit
    Here is are my thoughts as meager as they may be:

    You didn't do a very good job of protecting your king

    You didn't do a very good job of developing your queenside pieces

    Of course both to those may be connected.

    First bad move: 7.c6 I'd say developing either your queen's bishop or knight would have been better.
  6. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    04 Aug '14 03:14 / 1 edit
    3. .. f5?
    5. .. h6? (is Nd5 worth consideration?)

    in general far too many pawn moves weakening your position.

    edit: ... but we are about the same grade so don't listen to me! 😛
  7. 04 Aug '14 03:22 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    3. .. f5?
    5. .. h6? (is Nd5 worth consideration?)

    in general far too many pawn moves weakening your position.

    edit: ... but we are about the same grade so don't listen to me! 😛
    Heck I'm worse. 😀

    One question:

    Why work your queen over in two moves when you could have simply developed your bishop there in one and supported both pawns just as well?
  8. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    04 Aug '14 14:36 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Heck I'm worse. 😀

    One question:

    Why work your queen over in two moves when you could have simply developed your bishop there in one and supported both pawns just as well?
    So you are saying instead of 8 N-d7 put out bishop to d6, force trade. That sounds better than what happened.

    Is white's bishop the 'good' bishop and mine the 'bad' one?
  9. 04 Aug '14 15:43
    From your pawn structure I'd say the black bishop would be your good bishop too, but yeah trading off his black bishop in that situation looks like a great thing to do while helping to develop your pieces.

    If you look has the game ended you might as well have started the game without your rook on a8 and your bishop on c8. There were totally irrelevant in this game while white had all his pieces in play.
  10. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    04 Aug '14 16:02 / 1 edit
    I don't like 5...h6. Already enough light-square weaknesses. How about 5...d5 and what's that N going to do without a Bc4 to help?

    Edit: or better yet, 3...d5!
  11. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    04 Aug '14 19:47 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    I don't like 5...h6. Already enough light-square weaknesses. How about 5...d5 and what's that N going to do without a Bc4 to help?

    Edit: or better yet, 3...d5!
    I just noticed I could have gotten a piece for 2 pawns by pushing g5, his bishop is trapped, I get B or N for 2 pawns. Whether it would be worth it is another thing. No, Bishop has hole at g3.