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Originally posted by SwissGambit3.c4 blocks the natural squares for the bishop and creates an outpost for black. Black has the option of a later c6, so the control the pawns exert over d5 is contested. I'd say it's far worse than 1.a3, which gives up nothing more than a tempo.
Is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c4 really that bad? I'd rather play that than 1.a3.
Originally posted by sonhouseI never heard of that Konstantinopolsky Opening either. This guy is evaluating the openings based on the win/loss/draw percentage of some database of games, which certainly can't include every chess game ever played. It all depends on the follow-up moves as to how bad an opening turns out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-D2v_rS30E
Anyone have any others? I never heard of #3 before.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtI don't like the opening either, but it can be setup similar to a Botvinnik English with d3, g3, Bg2 etc.
3.c4 blocks the natural squares for the bishop and creates an outpost for black. Black has the option of a later c6, so the control the pawns exert over d5 is contested. I'd say it's far worse than 1.a3, which gives up nothing more than a tempo.
Originally posted by SwissGambitYes, that reminds me that robbie carrobie had a thread on a similar setup on his thread "annotated game". His King Knight came to e2 instead of f3 in his game.
I don't like the opening either, but it can be setup similar to a Botvinnik English with d3, g3, Bg2 etc.
Originally posted by greenpawn34I think 1...e5 is always best for Black, if it can be played without being captured. 1.a3 just seems to make the opening too easy for Black.
If a good player knows of the weakness he has created with a
so called dodgy opening move then it can work in his favour.
Somebody had better PM Apawnocalypse that this pawn formation...
[fen]rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/2P1P3/8/PP1P1PPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1[/fen]
...is bad. He plays as White 1.e4 e5 2.c4 on a regular basis.
Nf3 and Nc6 usually mak ...[text shortened]... White f4 lines.
The more I think about it the more I like 1.a3. (best answer is 1..a6!) 🙂
Originally posted by RJHindsYears ago someone was playing that opening online (1.f3 e5 2. Kf2) and beating grand masters with it. Rumor had it that it was Bobby Fischer.
I never heard of that Konstantinopolsky Opening either. This guy is evaluating the openings based on the win/loss/draw percentage of some database of games, which certainly can't include every chess game ever played. It all depends on the follow-up moves as to how bad an opening turns out.
The worst opening followup move that was ever actually played ag see why the Dresden opening should be rated the worst of White's openings.
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Originally posted by woodypusherWell if it were Bobby Fischer, I would not doubt he could get away with it, especially if they were online blitz games.
Years ago someone was playing that opening online (1.f3 e5 2. Kf2) and beating grand masters with it. Rumor had it that it was Bobby Fischer.