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...Bg2 looks good

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29.Ra3? seems to be decisive mistake

After 29.Rd1! position would be still unclear.

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Time trouble is starting to play his role Anand played 31...Bg4?! instead of 31...Bf5! which should win. Now Kramnik can escape, especially taking into account Anand`s time trouble.

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Originally posted by Korch
Time trouble is starting to play his role Anand played 31...Bg4?! instead of 31...Bf5! which should win. Now Kramnik are able to escape, especially taking into account Anand`s time trouble.
yes yes yes, Kramnish blundered imediately also πŸ™‚...(I am so strong when I have my engine running πŸ˜€ )
It ould be a nice thing for chess to see a win as black in a WCh match πŸ™‚
STOP the draws!!!

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Originally posted by vipiu
yes yes yes, Kramnish blundered imediately also πŸ™‚...(I am so strong when I have my engine running πŸ˜€ )
It ould be a nice thing for chess to see a win as black in a WCh match πŸ™‚
STOP the draws!!!
No - 32.f3 was not blunder. It should be draw.

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Originally posted by vipiu
yes yes yes, Kramnish blundered imediately also πŸ™‚...(I am so strong when I have my engine running πŸ˜€ )
It ould be a nice thing for chess to see a win as black in a WCh match πŸ™‚
STOP the draws!!!
lol, my stupid engine...after I did about 5-6 moves in his best line it realized it is a draw πŸ™

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damn, Anand just missed mate πŸ™

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33.Bd3?? was real blunder. Why not 33.Kb3 with draw?

But Anand did not take on d3 - but also after 33...Bh3 Black should win.

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nice game, Anand still has a win...very tactical, they are making mistakes all the time...not used with wild position...it seems they play perfect only in the typical positions that they have studied a lot...

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Originally posted by Korch
33.Bd3?? was real blunder. Why not 33.Kb3 with draw?

But Anand did not take on d3 - but also after 33...Bh3 Black should win.
yes, Kb3 was the line given by my engine...where it was thinking black is winning, just to realize later that black Q is not so strong against white R+strong passed pawn

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Originally posted by vipiu
nice game, Anand still has a win...very tactical, they are making mistakes all the time...not used with wild position...it seems they play perfect only in the typical positions that they have studied a lot...
Main reason of mistakes was time trouble. I hope that now you do understand why Anand accepted draw in 2nd game.

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Originally posted by vipiu
yes, Kb3 was the line given by my engine...where it was thinking black is winning, just to realize later that black Q is not so strong against white R+strong passed pawn
Actually GM Sergey Shipov who makes online comments in crestbook.com (considered as one of the best online commentators) did not notice that draw πŸ˜€

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Originally posted by Korch
Main reason of mistakes was time trouble. I hope that now you do understand why Anand accepted draw in 2nd game.
so they should train better on time management...they play first 15 moves from book, they have 2 hours for 25 moves....

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Originally posted by vipiu
so they should train better on time management...they play first 15 moves from book, they have 2 hours for 25 moves....
In positions like that, even so much time can be insufficient. It's not like they can't play fast. Anand is the best blitz player in the world. It's just that the position is not just about intuition and moving fast, you need to be accurate and examine it in detail. Anyway, congratulations to Anand!!!

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Originally posted by exigentsky
In positions like that, even so much time can be insufficient. It's not like they can't play fast. Anand is the best blitz player in the world. It's just that the position is not just about intuition and moving fast, you need to be accurate and examine it in detail. Anyway, congratulations to Anand!!!
as far as I know, anand is the best rapid player in the world. the best blitz player is considered to be Ivanchuk (who also has a lot of practice for blitz in long games due to chronical time trouble πŸ™‚). the overall best player is of course Kramnik though πŸ™‚.

I was sorry to see Kramnik lost. And Anand missing Bxd3 really has surprised me. obviously it's not possible to see the mate, but he could easily see he could at least force to take the queen. I think, if one gives me half an hour and tell me there's a forced win, I could've found it, and it makes me proud πŸ™‚.
Does anyone know how much time did he have around that move?

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