Hi guys.
I know a lot of you have piles of chess books.
Can anybody find a ref in a book dated before 1980 calling the following
wequence of moves The Blackburne trap.
(Don't look on the net. Every site mentioning it is wrong. It is not
the Blackburn trap - Blackburne stated the trap named after him
was infact Legal's Mate.)
Cheers.
I played a game recently where my opponent used this opening against me.
I panicked a bit because I didn't have a clue how to refute it but eventually managed to even things out, and I think I actually missed a checkmate opportunity later in the game - I think I made misstep at move 23. I'd be interested in hearing the best way to play against this as white.
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I hope I haven't hijacked your thread GP.
Originally posted by Double GJust take the horse, instead of the pawn. You were lucky he wasn't very familiar with the gambit and didn't know how to exploit your 7.f3 further.
I played a game recently where my opponent used this opening against me.
I panicked a bit because I didn't have a clue how to refute it but eventually managed to even things out, and I think I actually missed a checkmate opportunity later in the game - I think I made misstep at move 23. I'd be interested in hearing the best way to play against this as white.
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I hope I haven't hijacked your thread GP.
Originally posted by PalynkaDefinitely worth a try for white is to take the pawn, when Qg5, Bxe7, Ke7, 0-0! Queen takes knight, bishop takes knight. Black's up a knight for two pawns, but his game seems terrible.
Just take the horse, instead of the pawn. You were lucky he wasn't very familiar with the gambit and didn't know how to exploit your 7.f3 further.
Originally posted by Fat LadyJust noticed that one of the games in Wall's article is "G. Chandler - NN, Stockbridge 1983"
Bill Wall's article about the Shilling Gambit is very good:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/shilling.htm
Obviously Black had a completely won game after six moves in game above and had to find some really appalling moves to lose it.
Originally posted by Double GGreat game! A wonder, that that game ended with a draw ;-)
I played a game recently where my opponent used this opening against me.
I panicked a bit because I didn't have a clue how to refute it but eventually managed to even things out, and I think I actually missed a checkmate opportunity later in the game - I think I made misstep at move 23. I'd be interested in hearing the best way to play against this as white.
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I hope I haven't hijacked your thread GP.
Originally posted by greenpawn34I think, I have seen that game in Tarrasch's "Game of Chess" from about 1928, but it was not called Blackburne trap. I will have a look on the weekend, when I am back home by my books
Hi guys.
I know a lot of you have piles of chess books.
Can anybody find a ref in a [b]book dated before 1980 calling the following
wequence of moves The Blackburne trap.
(Don't look on the net. Every site mentioning it is wrong. It is not
the Blackburn trap - Blackburne stated the trap named after him
was infact Legal's Mate.)
[pgn] ...[text shortened]... e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nd4 4. Nxe5 Qg5 5. Nxf7 Qxg2 6. Rf1 Qxe4+ 7. Be2
Nf3[/pgn]
Cheers.[/b]
Edit: in chess related historical questions, ask GM Lothar Schmid! http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar_Schmid
He will always assist you. He has propably the greatest chess library of the world
Hi Guys,
You have all been brilliant.
Here is the situation.
Everyone thinks the Shilling Trap is the Blackburne Trap.
It's not, it's the trap that Fat Lady showed Legal's Mate and this is the trap
shown in Blackburner's book as 'his' shilling earner.
So who started this myth about it being the 3...Nd4 game?
I've checked Blackburne's obit in the 1924 BCM and loads of other books.
I was at the Edinburgh Club tonight checking more.
The trap is often mentioned but never with the Blackburne connection
The first mention I can find in a book is Chess Addicts 1987.
(Bill Wall is wrong with Chess Companion 1992).
However...and this is where it gets sticky.
When I wrote MASTER CHESS 1983/84 I think I mentioned the mistake as well.
And I cannot find any mention of it before me.
Did I start the whole thing rolling?
I don't have a copy of Master Chess - can anyone check if I call it the
Blackburne trap with the same wrong moves. (I've written about this
trap so often I cannot rememebr if I put it in that book - it was 25 years ago).
This would be a classic Chandler Goof.
I start a quest looking to see who starrted this myth and it turns out to be me!
Originally posted by Double GWonderful game of chess, but this shouldn't have been too difficult?
I played a game recently where my opponent used this opening against me.
I panicked a bit because I didn't have a clue how to refute it but eventually managed to even things out, and I think I actually missed a checkmate opportunity later in the game - I think I made misstep at move 23. I'd be interested in hearing the best way to play against this as white.
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I hope I haven't hijacked your thread GP.