10 Dec 04
On another site, I saw someone claim that they played this preposterous opening (as white, or reversed in black )in a minor tournament and won everygame, just as a test of skill. I've been playing it exclusively on the net recently, and after the initial shock, most opponents assume you're a dumbass, get wreckless, and drop the game. The king isn't all that insecure on f-2, with the right pawn cover. Man, do people get mad when they lose to The Douchebag! Mwuahahahahahahaha...try it, it's not as suck as it seems, and it's fun to play. So far I've got a big positive score, and losses have been hard wins for the other guy.
11 Dec 04
Originally posted by Dodger11It's a defense, but the line goes
I've been playing it exclusively on the net recently, and after the initial shock, most opponents assume you're a dumbass, get wreckless, and drop the game. The king isn't all that insecure on f-2.
1. f3, 2. Kf2.
Isn't white supposed to attack?
However I do agree that any opening that doesn't put a pawn on e4 or d4 on the first move seems to encourage unsound sacs and hyper-agressive pawn storms when playing on the net.
Are you playing blitz? In blitz this opening probably wouldn't work so well against experienced opponents. The standard stragetegy of grab the center, make it solid (don't move it unless you have to), and let the opponent hear the tick-tocking of thier clock should work very well.
11 Dec 04
Originally posted by egsmith10 min games.....lately I've been playing it at the local club too....weaker players can't do anything worthwhile against it, the one member thats a better player than me has crushed me when I've tried to douchebag him, but I believe with more experience, I may be able to put up a better defense.....work is pending on this wonderful opening.
It's a defense, but the line goes
1. f3, 2. Kf2.
Isn't white supposed to attack?
However I do agree that any opening that doesn't put a pawn on e4 or d4 on the first move seems to encourage unsound sacs and hyper-agressive pawn storms when playing on the net.
Are you playing blitz? In blitz this opening probably wouldn't work so well against e ...[text shortened]... you have to), and let the opponent hear the tick-tocking of thier clock should work very well.
11 Dec 04
Originally posted by Freddie20044Just the first two moves, no one's ever tried to analyze it since it's not really a serious way to begin.. it's more of a joke opening...you're basically laughing at your opponent, contemptuously ruining your position and daring him to punish you.
what is the full line of this opening?
12 Dec 04
Originally posted by Dodger11Don't be so sure - this is a fully fledged attacking opening. Those who master this can go on to play the reversed goolie crusher 1..f6 and 2..Kf7.
Just the first two moves, no one's ever tried to analyze it since it's not really a serious way to begin.. it's more of a joke opening...you're basically laughing at your opponent, contemptuously ruining your position and daring him to punish you.
I shall see if I can dig out some analysis.
12 Dec 04
Originally posted by Dodger1110 mins is blitz in my book. 30 seconds or less a move makes it hard to form plans, etc (for me anyway). Before you invest a lot of time, one thing to keep in mind is weaker players can't do anything worthwhile against most openings (if they could then they wouldn't be "weaker"😉. But on the other hand they can copy others pretty well, so something origional (aka not found in books), where you have analyzed the pluses and minuses of the position beforehand should do pretty good.
10 min games.....lately I've been playing it at the local club too....weaker players can't do anything worthwhile against it, the one member thats a better player than me has crushed me when I've tried to douchebag him, but I believe with more experience, I may be able to put up a better defense.....work is pending on this wonderful opening.
Besides, analyzing why "the douchebag" is not effective against advanced players should be instructive in itself.
By the way, have you recorded or do you have PGNs of any of your past games with this opening?
I was playing with how I would proceed as white, it's pretty hard. What do you do with your bishops? The white position is going to be cramped so using them effectively is going to be hard. I was thinking perhaps just trade them off. However the kingside looks pretty naked after black advances the f-pawn.
Here is what I came up with. I would be interested in what fritz or chessmaster has to say.
1. f3 d5 2. Kf2 e5 {the given line} 3. e3 Nc6 {I played with the early d5-d4 but I think this just opens the game to traps, black has an advantage in the center, use that} 4. Bb5 {pin, probably trade, for this important knight} Bd7 {after the trade the bishop is on a critical diagonal, prepares a O-O-O} 5. Ne2 f5
At this point I would say roles have switched, black is the attacker. However black will have to soldify what he has. There are a lot of spots for the white knights and e5 can be made weak, so white has chances. However this game probably isn't for me. Much too tactical in nature.
NOTE: No Qh4+ this is a one move attack that doesn't accomplish much. I think black would be better served grabbing center and kingside space.
12 Dec 04
Originally posted by flexmoreOmigod....there's almost 400 sites that have this opening mentioned, even a famous problem by the great Sam Lloyd, and a couple of tournament games, one between a 2150 player and an IM. Who'd a thought it?
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=%221.+f3%22++%222.+Kf2%22&meta=