1. Standard memberDragon Fire
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    19 Feb '07 16:591 edit
    Originally posted by Diet Coke
    This grob sure is a killer!😲

    Game 3151467
    Sure is but in response to Bc4 and Qf6 by black anythings a killer....
  2. Standard memberDiet Coke
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    19 Feb '07 17:01
    Originally posted by Dragon Fire
    Sure is but in response to Bc4 and Qf6 by black anythings a killer....
    Now, now be reasonable.

    Anything produced by a competent chess player.

    Qf6 was a surprise. But Bc5 was coming next, sure as night comes after day.

    Some chess players are so predictable.😳
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    19 Feb '07 20:38
    "The Killer Grob" by IM Michael Basman is an entertaining and instructive book, IMO. It has tons of complete games with fairly simple notes (as opposed to showing alternative lines that go ten moves deep). A fun book.
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    19 Feb '07 20:55
    For a good representation of Basman's Grob games you can simply go to chessgames.com and search for Michael Basman, then click on "uncommon openings". Here, I've done it for you!
    http://tinyurl.com/2dl5la

    This way you see the losses as well the victories. There's a weird game against Nunn (Basman won) where Basman plays the Grob but leaves his white squared bishop on f1 for the first twenty moves (and then not moving it to g2).
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    19 Feb '07 21:06
    Originally posted by gaychessplayer
    "The Killer Grob" by IM Michael Basman is an entertaining and instructive book, IMO. It has tons of complete games with fairly simple notes (as opposed to showing alternative lines that go ten moves deep). A fun book.
    Thank you! Good input. I will probably order it for the fun of it.
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    18 Mar '07 15:26
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    Fried liver attack
    Eugh!
    😕
    Fried Liver Attack my a**. 😛
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    18 Mar '07 15:27
    Originally posted by Diet Coke
    [b]This grob sure is a killer!😲
    Grob opening my a**. 😛
  8. Standard memberKorch
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    18 Mar '07 15:38
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    In short no. Basman's advice would have lost to Keene in 14 moves.

    Basman had to change plans against Keene and still lost in 20 moves, Keenes friend made a bet with Keene who would win quicker if Basman tried the grob, Keene only won by 1 move.
    As I have mentioned in previous Grob threads Keene was uneasy opponent for Basman at all and not only in Grob. So Basman defeats against Keene means nothing.

    I think this book could be not bad BUT - dont trust these recommendations blindly. Always check them with engine.
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    18 Mar '07 16:52
    Originally posted by Korch
    As I have mentioned in previous Grob threads Keene was uneasy opponent for Basman at all and not only in Grob. So Basman defeats against Keene means nothing.

    I think this book could be not bad BUT - dont trust these recommendations blindly. Always check them with engine.
    Except during a game when you may follow the book but not check with an engine here as that would be cheating.
  10. Standard memberKorch
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    18 Mar '07 17:411 edit
    Originally posted by Dragon Fire
    Except during a game when you may follow the book but not check with an engine here as that would be cheating.
    Of course. But who can forbid you to check it before starting play this opening or line?
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