Originally posted by mateuloseIf I say which opening I hate the most people are going to start playing it against me 🙁
Openings I hate:
1. Closed Sicilians, for whimps who don't wanna study any theory, usually results in lazy games where I have to wait, wait, and wait for white to play d4 for ANYTHING to happen, which is usally never.
2. Rossolimo Sicilians, same as above, it's not exactly hard to play Bb5, and that's all you have to know, lazy game boring game, n ...[text shortened]... knowledge required.
3. I hate the Levitzky attack, I don't know why, it just peeves me off.
Originally posted by mateuloseBlack only gets nothing on the queenside if he can't play queenside attacks...I think black normally pushes for ..a3 to weaken the dark squares up. Apparently it sounds like you can't attack on the queenside.
WHATEVER, I just HATE the opening because white makes ALL THE DECISIONS, as I said, it's all up to white to decide when to open the center, because whenever black tries to force it, things go wrong. Queenside attacking him really does nothing, you basicly exchange a few pawns, acheive a symetrical queenside area where you play your rooks on open files, bi ...[text shortened]... k not to play the Sicilian at all and perhabs instead hope for a draw with the Caro-Kann. 😴😴😴
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Well, what exactly are you supposed to do queenside? Open up files and put rooks there? Wow, white can do the same thing, and you're not really attacking anything. Attack the "weak" e pawn via striking queenside and center? (A common Sicilian theme), oops, white played d3 here, and he can also play f3, well, that doesn't work.
Black only gets nothing on the queenside if he can't play queenside attacks...I think black normally pushes for ..a3 to weaken the dark squares up. Apparently it sounds like you can't attack on the queenside.
Somehow force white to play d4? I don't see how that's possible, I've been suggested to try and do this, but personally I don't see how I can force someone to push a pawn from d3 to d4, unless I sac a peice, maybe I'm supposed to do that? Oh wait, I tried that already, acting radical against the closed Sicilian to open up the center makes things worse, right, gotta remember that, so all I can do is sit aroud and WAIT for white to do something and come to me. *Yawns*
Bye, bye Sicilian, time for the Caro-Kann, thanks a lot Tony, you and your ilk have made chess a true boring testiment by doing this to the once charished Sicilian, which results in attacking games on both sides, but I guess you are scared of that and would rather see 100's of Caro's instead. Look at GM chess, it's happening already, the Sicilian is losing it's pepper thanks to your type, and everyone is mimicing Karpov and Kramnik by playing you know what. Time for me to do the same.😴😴😴
You could be the most ridiculous kid I know. You immediately reject things as lost because you have no idea how to play them. I just stomped the crap outta some guy on ICC on the black side of the closed sicilian. I play the Siclian as black too guy! You don't see me crying. Black should set up like so: pawn structure on e6 d6 f7 g6 h7. Then he should put knights on e7 and c6. Bishop on g7. The light squared bishop is harder. Rook goes on b8 quickly so you can push b5 then b4. The light squared bishop goes to a6 in alot of lines to hit the d3 pawn if white plays c3. The knight on c6 can go to d4, and if white takes you can take with the c-pawn and put all you crap on the c-file to hit the c2 pawn. Sometimes black plays a5-a4-a3 to force b3, weakening the dark squares. I will try to find a game I got rocked in to show you. It's not that tough.
[Edit: Here we go. A game where I got made a fool of in my early days of chess playing. My play was bad, but it really illustrates blacks play perfectly! ]
Game 181061
Originally posted by !~TONY~!LOL, Tony, you lost that game because you did a premature kingside attack, if you want to go kingside attacking, then play the open variations FFS, that would increase your chances. The closed is for those who hate to attack and don't want their opponent to attack, if you played passive, instead of wasting moves pawn storming, and defended your queenside it would be even.
You could be the most ridiculous kid I know. You immediately reject things as lost because you have no idea how to play them. I just stomped the crap outta some guy on ICC on the black side of the closed sicilian. I play the Siclian as black too guy! You don't see me crying. Black should set up like so: pawn structure on e6 d6 f7 g6 h7. Then he should put ...[text shortened]... ng. My play was bad, but it really illustrates blacks play perfectly! ]
Game 181061
Originally posted by mateuloseLOL, Mate. Those first 13 moves are book moves moron. GM's play those regularly in the Closed. You have no idea what you are talking about again. Your opening knowledge lacks so far behind mine you have no room to talk....EVER. Go to chessbase and search for that variation at about move 10 in their online database. You will be sorely mistaken. I have a book called "Attacking With 1. e4" that reccomends that variation up to I think move 13. And that's John Emms, who also wrote NCO, one of the best openings bibles ever. Do your research before you step up with the big dogs chump.
LOL, Tony, you lost that game because you did a premature kingside attack, if you want to go kingside attacking, then play the open variations FFS, that would increase your chances. The closed is for those who hate to attack and don't want their opponent to attack, if you played passive, instead of wasting moves pawn storming, and defended your queenside it would be even.
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Well, none of my opponents ever do that when they play the closed, my guess is they don't even know they are playing the closed Sicilian then, if what you did (which lost), is what you are supposed to do. . .
LOL, Mate. Those first 13 moves are book moves moron. GM's play those regularly in the Closed. You have no idea what you are talking about again. Your opening knowledge lacks so far behind mine you have no room to talk....EVER. Go to chessbase and search for that variation at about move 10 in their online database. You will be sorely mistaken. I have a boo ...[text shortened]... of the best openings bibles ever. Do your research before you step up with the big dogs chump.
Originally posted by mateuloseOf course your opponents don't play that. Your opponents play lame, crappy, retarded, lazy, stupid moves that are not in the book, and that causes you to lose unfairly.
Well, none of my opponents ever do that when they play the closed, my guess is they don't even know they are playing the closed Sicilian then, if what you did (which lost), is what you are supposed to do. . .
Some people!
Originally posted by mateuloseYes, that is all book. I lost because in my crappy days, I allowed the shots ..Nxb3 and Bd4...
Well, none of my opponents ever do that when they play the closed, my guess is they don't even know they are playing the closed Sicilian then, if what you did (which lost), is what you are supposed to do. . .
I think the whole idea behind this thread is rather dumb; it doesn't matter what openings you "hate" if your opponent plays 'em you need to learn strategies against them. I always used to have trouble against Alekhine's and the Center Counter but the more I played them, the better I got against them. The idea is you can't throw up your hands and say "I hate that opening" and hope the other guy doesn't play it, you have to learn what works against it.
I've told mateulose before he doesn't understand the Sicilian and shouldn't play it; if you think a Queenside attack by Black is useless you're in the wrong opening because the whole Sicilian is based on Queenside counterplay. I've also told him if White plays Closed you have to try and open the Queen file by forcing a d5; I've won a lot of games here and other places by doing so. White ALWAYS has attacking opportunities against the Sicilian; Black MUST get his Queenside counterplay rolling quickly after his development is complete (or almost complete if White is forcing which in the Closed they're not). If you want to play a more drawish safe opening, I'd recommend the Petroff.
Originally posted by no1marauderI agree. It seems like for a guy that hates losing to tactics and think queenside attacks are useless, the Sicilian must be his worst knightmare. Haha...pretty funny actually. Seems like he just likes to have winning positions in which his opponent can't complicate anything....haven't found an opening like that yet....although some say the Ruy is like that.
I think the whole idea behind this thread is rather dumb; it doesn't matter what openings you "hate" if your opponent plays 'em you need to learn strategies against them. I always used to have trouble against Alekhine's and the Center Counter but the more I played them, the better I got against them. The idea is you can't throw up your hand ...[text shortened]... osed they're not). If you want to play a more drawish safe opening, I'd recommend the Petroff.
In the game of chess it's often white that gets to make most of the decisions. Live with it. However it's not like black is totally without counterplay. Learn how to break in the right place rather than the wrong place. Or just wait for the mistake that must come if the opponent is so stupid as to play this STUPID opening.