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The Qd6 Scandinavian

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sure you can you can learn from every mistake you capitalize on and dont play that way when your their color. lol

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Originally posted by kmac27
sure you can you can learn from every mistake you capitalize on and dont play that way when your their color. lol
but if you noticed it was a mistake then you probably wouldn't play it in a game anyways.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
This is an interesting option for black in the Qxd5 Scandi. Here are the opening moves...

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd6

The Scandinavian is becoming slowly more accepted (Although I still have some major doubts about it...) and it seems to be a strong weapon for low level players that wish to avoid theory. The 3...Qd6 move was first brought to my a s simply refuse to play the Open Sicilian... So, any thoughts on it, or any games with it?
Interesting development indeed. Here is a RHP example between two other Belgians: Game 2388185. I thought the Nge2 idea was interesting too.

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here's a review of andrew martin's dvd on this specific opening:

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3227

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The Qd6 variation in the Scandinavian defense is the Bronstein or Gubinsky-Melts one. Look at some games from the dutch GM Sergie Tiviakov (at chessgames.com). He recently played this varation in several tournaments as Wijk aan Zee (2006) and (I think) the dutch championships (2006). He was quit succesfull with it. Interesting study material !

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Thanks for all of the material guys. Interesting stuff, but I think I'm going to play the Alekhine against lower rated players anyway. Of course, against higher rated players I'm going to use the Sicilian Dragon.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Interesting development indeed. Here is a RHP example between two other Belgians: Game 2388185. I thought the Nge2 idea was interesting too.
Oh, quite intriguing. d6 is obviously not a common spot for the queen (on either side) and so this opening really brings to life new unexplored positions for both sides. I think the Alekhine is what I'll use now against the sub 1200's of the world, but I may throw in this Scandinavian variation from time to time. It certainly looks playable, and black's defense is hard to break down, although somewhat behind.

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Gary Lane's new book, "Ideas Behind Modern Chess Openings: Black", recommends the 3...Qd6 line in the Scandinavian.

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Originally posted by YUG0slav
1. e4 d5 2. d4
2...c5 (recommended by Eric Schiller in "Gambit Opening Repertoire for Black"😉

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I play the scandinavian openning quite alot.
I am in the lower rating bracket.
I have just started really to learn the game of chess! However i was initially attracted to this openning as i did not have too wade through masses of theory! Which i found in many other opennings as black!!
The drawbacks seem to be in this openning can be that the queen gets chased around the board after you take the central pawn,
I moved on to getting the knight instead on c3.
I like the discussion earlier on the variation with the queen.

On chesslecture.con,where some of the opennings are debated they seem to come out in the opinion that this openning is a good draw for black.

I have not played it for long really, i tend to get mixed results with it!

I am thinking of giving the scillian a try with black, but there seems to be so much written on it! Any recomendations in books etc for a beginner with this opening as black?

And any more thoughts on the above?

thanks

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Do not predicate your opening repertoire based on the expertise or non-expertise of your opponents. Play the best move, that's my policy. If you want to develop as a chess player and you play a suspicious variation, what's going to happen when you find yourself opposite people of your equal or above rating? You're going to look silly playing that opening. So what if your opponent refuses to play open sicilian, just learn to play the closed sicilian. A lot of highly rated players play the closed sicilian as a matter of course anyway, so you might as well learn something about it. The Scandinavian's ok, but as in all openings beware of playing fishy lines just to trap opponents. How do i know it's a fishy line? I'll check it on a database. If it gets below a 30% rating on master level, it probably isn't any good. (my numbers are approximate). If as black you see someting get a 40-50% as black, it's probably ok. Remember, when you were learning the game, and you brought your queen and bishop out first and checkmated your opponent in three moves? I hope you're not still playing that line.

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Just checked qd6 on Shredder database. It gives it a 42% rating. from that standpoint, it's ok to play against anybody as black, as long as you know the lines.

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Thats good to hear!
However getting to the best move is often my problem!!!!

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Originally posted by YUG0slav
1. e4 d5 2. d4
Blackmar is fun (especially the Qxf3 line) but its not going to stand up in long games.