I have a profound question to subject you: Do you Think that one day
a machine will manage ALWAYS to win, that is to resolve the
mathematical equation which leads from A to Z to the checkmate, and
it for any colour and any opening?
And then, among us, what interest? If it arrived (I do not hope for it,
pity!) we could all throw our chessboards to the garbage, not really?
Sorry if my english's not good.
Awaiting your answers.
RmX.
I think in future a quantum computer will be able to play a perfect game by calculating all
possible sequences of moves. If it played against itself, either Black would resign
immediately, seeing his initial position was hopeless, or they would immediately see that the
initial position was drawn and agree a draw, or just possibly White would resign, which would
certainly have human analysts puzzled.
But if you forced both computers to play on, they would play a perfect game of chess.
Hopefully, for the sake of competitive human v human chess, the game would be a long one,
and the analysis of the game would be too complicated for even the best human players to
follow. Otherwise such games, only with the computers being given various 'critical' positions
to play from, would slowly dissolve the mystique of chess. For example the first few games
would tell us once and for all what the best openings are (or there may be only 1 best
opening).
I think in future a quantum computer will be able to play a perfect game by calculating all
possible sequences of moves. If it played against itself, either Black would resign
immediately, seeing his initial position was hopeless, or they would immediately see that the
initial position was drawn and agree a draw, or just possibly White would resign, which would
certainly have human analysts puzzled.
But if you forced both computers to play on, they would play a perfect game of chess.
Hopefully, for the sake of competitive human v human chess, the game would be a long one,
and the analysis of the game would be too complicated for even the best human players to
follow. Otherwise such games, only with the computers being given various 'critical' positions
to play from, would slowly dissolve the mystique of chess. For example the first few games
would tell us once and for all what the best openings are (or there may be only 1 best
opening).
I think in future a quantum computer will be able to play a perfect game by calculating all
possible sequences of moves. If it played against itself, either Black would resign
immediately, seeing his initial position was hopeless, or they would immediately see that the
initial position was drawn and agree a draw, or just possibly White would resign, which would
certainly have human analysts puzzled.
But if you forced both computers to play on, they would play a perfect game of chess.
Hopefully, for the sake of competitive human v human chess, the game would be a long one,
and the analysis of the game would be too complicated for even the best human players to
follow. Otherwise such games, only with the computers being given various 'critical' positions
to play from, would slowly dissolve the mystique of chess. For example the first few games
would tell us once and for all what the best openings are (or there may be only 1 best
opening).
Originally posted by Acolytewhy is this possible with a Quantum computer? are they not just twice as fast as normal computers (i.e. tehy can read both sides of a coin at once instead of one side then the other) but why does this let them play the perfect game? and also-doesn't it require a heck of a lot of good programming?
I think in future a quantum computer will be able to play a perfect game by calculating all
possible sequences of moves. If it played against itself, either Black would resign
immediately, seeing his initial position was hopeless, or they would immediately see that the
initial position was drawn and agree a draw, or just possibly White would resign, w ...[text shortened]... uld tell us once and for all what the best openings are (or there may be only 1 best
opening).
Ok, I am a computer programmer, or at least going to school for the knowledge.
Quantum computers could possibly play a 'perfect game of chess,' but as mentioned before, it would take good programming. Wether or not a human could discover the best possible algorithm for the 'perfect' chessmaster computer is in question... Wouldn't we just produce a computer that would see the same moves and evaluate them the way we do?
Chess is such a complex game, I have doubts that there is one clear way to win it 'the best.' It has been around for a VERY long time, and no one has discovered it yet... Makes me wonder if this quantum computer just wouldn't look at the game, evaluate all possible moves, and play the same was as the current chessmaster programs and computers.. Just a good deal faster 🙂
does it not to some extent depend on a computers ability to simulate certain human attributes like aggression, bluff, decoy....a computer may at some point in the future be able to play a 'perfect' game of chess, but it would be completely sterile wouldn't it? and then wouldn't it be a little pointless, an anachronism, like computer generated art?