To anyone : What about Chessgame Timelife?

I have a profound question to subject you: Do you Think that one day
a machine will manage ALWAYS to win, that is to resolve the
mathematical equation which leads from A to Z to the checkmate, and
it for any colour and any opening?

And then, among us, what interest? If it arrived (I do not hope for it,
pity!) we could all throw our chessboards to the garbage, not really?

Sorry if my english's not good.

Awaiting your answers.

RmX.

Monsieur, vous etes fort en anglais! J'ai compris tout que vous avez dit!

Je me pense que quand les ordinateurs peuvent jouer aux echecs comme ca, nous ne
pourriens plus aprecier le jeu... La chose le plus agreable des echecs est la imprévisibilité de
notre adversaire - Avec un ordinateur qui ne peut pas detruire, on ne peut pas fait rien!

J'espere que mon francais n'est pas trop faible pour vous, j'essaye mon meilleur!

Joe

Merci d'avoir répondu! J'ai pas compris "détruire", mais bon! Au plaisir!

Unless the equation the computers provide can be comprehended and
learnt by humans then we can hold onto our boards! Even now we
(almost) all know that Deep Fritz can beat us every time. I know that
50% of the chess playing community (at least) will beat me every
time. What's important is that there are humans out there who I can
play against, stand a chance & enjoy it.

Desole pour ne ecrire pas en Francais, par ce que ma Francais nést
pas bien (manifestement)

Thank you! I think you're right, While there are humans, all is
possible!

Rémi.

Pardon, je me suis embrouillé à cause de la répétition de votre message!

C'est pas grave, ami! Y'a pas de quoi!

I say post it once....that's obnoxious!

Easy there-- I really don't think it was meant to be obnoxious. Often
times that happens because someone has technical difficulties, but
regardless of the reason, I think it's better not to go after someone
personally about it unless it becomes a habit.

Sorry! Didn't want to be "obnuxious", just wanted of knwow people's
feel, that's all! And yes I had technik problem, it isn't my fault if it
appeared 4 times!!
Sorry Tony

Rémi.

No prob....

computer evaluations boil down to mathematical equations which
should correctly "judge" a position most of the time. but there are
some chess concepts which are difficult to "score." say, for example,
the long-term space advantage that black gets on the queenside of a
benko, or the strategic advantages of playing the minority attack. so
imagine a chess program with multiple chess concepts and trying to
correctly score and evaluate a position; i can't imagine the formulas
ever becoming "perfect."

The answer is yes.Ironthing will not need to know strategy,theory etc very
soon.Sheer horsepower will do it.Within 5-10 years processors are going to be
incredibly fast even compared to today.Instead of millions of positions per
second,it will be a billion per second or more.Perhaps a draw will be possible
but not if there is time control.The human will not be able to compete in timed
play.And even then it may take a team of humans analyzing.Imagine the
difficulties there 😉


And of course there will always be the usual.Ironthing does not get
tired.Sick.Doesn't have a bad day,etc.

I think that opening books and endgame tablebases (which can tell a
computer how to play perfectly for 2,3,4,5 and some 6 piece
endgames) are a big worry right now. As soon as all 6 piece endings
are known, we'll be in a LOT of trouble. Right now, it's almost
impossible to beat a computer in the opening or the ending.

Rein