Toby Chess

Hi

And I cannot believe I am going to do this, I am going to defend a computer.

Wormwood says the game is rubbish and Heinz 2 -" neither displays some
impress the newbies GM 2800 level."

Totaly agree that Black played sloppy and it does not look like 3200 chess.
(what ever that is - infact how would WE know what 3200 looked like?).

Black got it's Queen into a horrible mess most likely due to the horizon effect.
A decent Human would spot that at a glance but the box must have figured well in
advance - pawn up this is OK.

(more proof that it must be good players who use these things to get the
benefit).

But what was White to do?
If your opponent plays below par then often you have to play the only
moves (or moves) that take advantage of this. And if they are unimaginative
and dry. Then so be it. No choice.

(I've looked for a sac-sac mates but with half a heart. Surely this thing would
have found them.)

Think this was posted to show the limitations of Rybka rather than show
how good Toby was.

It takes two players playing well to produce a good game of chess.

Heinz you have to say sorry to Toby.

Originally posted by greenpawn34
Hi

And I cannot believe I am going to do this, I am going to defend a computer.

Wormwood says the game is rubbish and Heinz 2 -" neither displays some
impress the newbies GM 2800 level."

Totaly agree that Black played sloppy and it does not look like 3200 chess.
(what ever that is - infact how would WE know what 3200 looked like?).

Black ...[text shortened]... layers playing well to produce a good game of chess.

Heinz you have to say sorry to Toby.

I have downloaded a PGN from their site with a bunch of Toby - Rybka games.

Rybka wins a few times, many ploughboy draws, my comment was based on that.

OK Toby won this game so we say all White moves were 3200 level (they won), but what was Rybka doing in the meantime?

Originally posted by Wulebgr
I gotta remember that phrase. It's brilliant!

I'm not sure about the word ploughboy, it showed up in a translation program - yes I used an engine for it. I liked its dubiousness so decided to use it 😛

In Dutch we might call it "betonschaak" - concrete (the substance) chess

I thought about "farmer's chess" but that doesn't really purport its meaning.

I was thinking of the Ukrainian farmer (e3xod?) who calculated out Gruenfeld - Chigorin 1907 to a win where Grunfeld had resigned



White to move and win

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Hi Heinz.

When I figure out why the g-pawn is there then I'll be close to
getting it. Don't have clue yet.

Going to use 'ploughboy' chess but will credit you.

It's good defending computers. Nobody argues with you.

A translater progam? Nice idea. will try it looking for new words.

Originally posted by greenpawn34
Going to use 'ploughboy' chess

It's blood sweat and tears chess with no touch of genius every now and then

Is that better?

Originally posted by greenpawn34
Hi

And I cannot believe I am going to do this, I am going to defend a computer.

I can't believe it either. 🙂

Hi WW

Yeah.

I bet you a £1 to a pinch of dog dirt I'm going to regret that one.

The boffins are going to throw that right in my face.

Well if that is Rybka at it best, then bring it on.

Hi Heinz

Am writing latest article for Scottish Chess. Am going to use 'ploughboy chess'
(not crediting you) 🙂 I am a plagarist.

Got anymore good ones? What is Chandler Cornered in Dutch?

Originally posted by greenpawn34
'ploughboy chess'
(not crediting you)

😠

OK.

Line now reads.

"And 21...Rc8 is 'ploughboy chess' (thank you HeinzKat).
A move so bad that after it was played the Rook got up and walked off the board."

Happy Now?

Originally posted by greenpawn34
OK.

Line now reads.

"And 21...Rc8 is 'ploughboy chess' (thank you HeinzKat).
A move so bad that after it was played the Rook got up and walked off the board."

Happy Now?

It seems better to me without inverted commas nor credit

Then Eddy Summers will google this Ploughboy chess and first hit will be RHP and will accuse you of plagiarism & engine use and you will get fired from the magazine too

That sounds like a better plan to me

Look face ache.

Do you want credited or not?

And I'll put 'inverted' commas where I 'want' and 'when' I want.

Now stop piddling about and post the solution to that damn study.

Do it with a moving PGN thingy. (if you can). 😛

If you're going to do it as "thanks HeinzKat" then I'll pass (I'm not an uppercasian). "thanks heinzkat" or "dedicated to heinzkat" in the opening or end credits... I'll consider.

By the way, TobyChess should solve this easily (if I read their promotion stuff correctly)

Beautiful.

No wonder I could not get it.

I was trying to prevent Black from stopping White Queening.
But toiled to find a use for the g-pawn.

All those underpromotions to stop the Bishop mating.
Then the 4 Knights getting out done by the lone Bishop.!

Gijs van Breukelen you say.

A work of art.

How on earth did he come up with that idea.

Thank you.

(I am not re-writing that line again - publish and be damned!)

Originally posted by greenpawn34
Gijs van Breukelen you say.

A work of art.

How on earth did he come up with that idea.

I bet he had some spare black knights frolicking around