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Topolof team accusing Kram using fritz 9!

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Here is the link:
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3401
I would rather suspect fritz of matching Kramniks moves rather than the other way around. Besides, we have dealt with that issue here at RHP and they failed to specify one CPU, mulitple CPU's, mac, PC, Linux (if fritz runs on linux. don't know) but you get the drift here.
I think its a preposterous charge specifically made to rattle Kramnik.
Its not working BTW, Topo has yet to win a game and they are into game 8 now.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Here is the link:
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3401
I would rather suspect fritz of matching Kramniks moves rather than the other way around. Besides, we have dealt with that issue here at RHP and they failed to specify one CPU, mulitple CPU's, mac, PC, Linux (if fritz runs on linux. don't know) but you get the drift here.
I think its a ...[text shortened]... rattle Kramnik.
Its not working BTW, Topo has yet to win a game and they are into game 8 now.
it seems you are a little out of date -topo has won a game - and we have another thread here about this claim.

http://www.timeforchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=53547&page=2

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Originally posted by flexmore
it seems you are a little out of date -topo has won a game - and we have another thread here about this claim.

http://www.timeforchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=53547&page=2
Ah, I saw the caption saying game 8 started but nothing about the finish, just ran through the game, so now its even. Kramnik should have played the 5th game it seems!

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Ah, I saw the caption saying game 8 started but nothing about the finish, just ran through the game, so now its even. Kramnik should have played the 5th game it seems!
"Why care for statements made from people who have no regards to the Truth?

Topalov dominated Kramnik more games than Kramnik him (if ever).
Topalov has proved he can win a tournament even when starting with a few losses.
Topalov rating is much higher than that of Kramnik.
The game is played in Russia.
The FIDE president is RUSSIAN.

Topalov did nothing wrong except the wrong moves he made on the chess board.

Every chess player would get really suspicious of his opponent's behavior if he goes 50 times to the bathroom. And rightfully HE SHOULD ASK FOR EXPLANATION!

Will see now if Kramnik would continue to match Fritz with the same %.
If he doesn't then he might well be considered "suspicious" GM.

And if he ever plays for the title the rules will be adjusted according to his behavior with extra "restroom securities."

Fair play is the first thing we want, right?"

Los Angeles posted all the above, and I agree with them. Face the truth! Hail Topalov!

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Originally posted by powershaker
"Why care for statements made from people who have no regards to the Truth?

Topalov dominated Kramnik more games than Kramnik him (if ever).
Topalov has proved he can win a tournament even when starting with a few losses.
Topalov rating is much higher than that of Kramnik.
The game is played in Russia.
The FIDE president is RUSSIAN.

Topal Los Angeles posted all the above, and I agree with them. Face the truth! Hail Topalov!
Is your head that far up Danailov's ass?

Let's take a look at these statements.

Topalov dominated Kramnik more games than Kramnik him (if ever).
If you mean by dominating, Topalov's style of play, well then it hasn't had much effect on Kramnik, because he has beaten Topalov 21 times, where Veselin only won 11 times. If you mean the games in this world championship match, well then it hasn't had much effect either.

Topalov has proved he can win a tournament even when starting with a few losses.
This statement doesn't even apply, because a tournament is far different from a match.

Topalov rating is much higher than that of Kramnik.
This is irrelevant, considering the difference in level of play between these 2 Super-GMs is nihil. If you want to prove Topalov is better than Kramnik, have a look at their records in games versus eachother, and you'll see Kramnik is way better.

The game is played in Russia.
Err. So? You can also point out that the game is played in FIDE-territory, and since Topalov is the FIDE world champion, and the match is FIDE-sponsored, it's to his advantage.

The FIDE president is RUSSIAN.
Indeed. FIDE president. Same point as above.

Topalov did nothing wrong except the wrong moves he made on the chess board.
He hired the wrong manager, who uses all dirty psychological tricks, as we have seen. It's no coincedence that alot of people have suddenly switched to Kramnik as their favourite.

Every chess player would get really suspicious of his opponent's behavior if he goes 50 times to the bathroom. And rightfully HE SHOULD ASK FOR EXPLANATION!
The bathroom is checked before the players enter, every day they play a game. The players themselves are also checked for any unusual items before the match starts. The fact is, there isn't a single shred of evidence that Kramnik has cheated, and therefor the protest against this were outrageous - I'm surprised Kramnik didn't forfeit the whole match immediately, it's what I would've done. If there is one person beeing honourable, it's Vladimir Kramnik.

Will see now if Kramnik would continue to match Fritz with the same %.
If he doesn't then he might well be considered "suspicious" GM.

You automatically assume that Danailov's statements about the match-up percentages are true. It shows how biased you are.
The match-up percentages don't even exclude moves that are forced or extremely obvious, so the actual percentage is even lower.
And I think Topalov's match-up is even higher than Kramnik's, considering Topalov's style is aggressive, attacking, while Kramnik plays more positional.

And if he ever plays for the title the rules will be adjusted according to his behavior with extra "restroom securities."

Fair play is the first thing we want, right?

You assume his behaviour is "bad", that he's cheating. But there's no shred of evidence to point out that he's cheating. Therefore adjusting the rules was a huge blunder by the FIDE-committee.

Topalov himself has said that Kramnik's play is fair. Then why the hell is his manager shouting that his match-up with Fritz 9 is so high, he's supposedly cheating? The unfair play at the moment, is the psychological tactics of Team Topalov. And you know it.

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Poor thread, not worth to mention!! Quit the crap!

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