I think I've found something I really like. 🙂 I really do. While reading "The Mamoth Book" I came across this game: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1224863 Now I tried the Traxler and greatly sucked at it but this one seems to be my thing. Black gets a lot of counterplay and it's not the crazy complicated stuff you see in the Traxler. Yep, tactics are lurking at many moves but I think things are a little bit more straightforward. Anyway enough talking and here is some things:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 {Bxe5 is just great if you wanna lose the game!} And now black can play 5. ... Na5! solid, agressive and best from what it seems the consensus is. And black can also play 5. ... b5!? here it seems that the best white reply is 6. Bf1 and after 6. ... Nd4 black is alright and calling the shots. And if 6. Bxb5 Qxd5 is just great for black:
Now tell me that this isn't a great way to punish that duffers's move that we invited with 3. .. Nf6?
Edit: Two knights... 😞
Originally posted by adam warlockNo it isn't in my opinion Black has to work very hard to show he has compensation for the pawn.
I think I've found something I really like. 🙂 I really do. While reading "The Mamoth Book" I came across this game: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1224863 Now I tried the Traxler and greatly sucked at it but this one seems to be my thing. Black gets a lot of counterplay and it's not the crazy complicated stuff you see in the Traxler. Yep, y to punish that duffers's move that we invited with 3. .. Nf6?
Edit: Two knights... 😞
I you play this against a strong player you may find you lose an endgame a pawn down!!
I have played this 2 times against 2000+ players on this site on both occasions I had a winning endgame after 30 or so moves.
This is coming from a player who plays the Two Knights frequently as Black.
Originally posted by najdorfslayerI think that the secret of this game is for the black to keep his pieeces very active and not to think about gaining the pawn back in the mean time. If black plays 5. ... Na5! things seem to be even better and easier to do.
No it isn't in my opinion Black has to work very hard to show he has compensation for the pawn.
I you play this against a strong player you may find you lose an endgame a pawn down!!
I have played this 2 times against 2000+ players on this site on both occasions I had a winning endgame after 30 or so moves.
This is coming from a player who plays the Two Knights frequently as Black.
After I get some games off my back and study this a little bit more do you want to give me a try on a training game or two? So we can experiment 5. ... Na5 and 5. ... b5.
Edit: My first serious game with it after some experiment with blitz Game 4765578
Originally posted by adam warlockYeah sure just let me know when 🙂
I think that the secret of this game is for the black to keep his pieeces very active and not to think about gaining the pawn back in the mean time. If black plays 5. ... Na5! things seem to be even better and easier to do.
After I get some games off my back and study this a little bit more do you want to give me a try on a training game or two? So w ...[text shortened]... . b5.
Edit: My first serious game with it after some experiment with blitz Game 4765578
Originally posted by adam warlockBlack doesn't quite achieves material equality after 6.bxc6 bxc4 7.Qe2 forking two pawns, despite the fact that White is still behind in development.
bxc4. Then white's pawn at c6 is soon to go down. So black achieves material equality and the bishop pair on an open/semiopen board. I think this is good enough for at least equality.
Originally posted by badivan1Joseph Palkovi doesn't rate it though:
what's your take after 6.dxc6?
"On 5...b5!? entirely wrong is 6.dxc6?, as after dxc4 the black pawn on c4 would exert an unpleasant pressure on white's queen's wing, so this continuation is definately better for black... "
Palkovi suggests several alternatives, his favourite line after
1.e4...e5 2.Nf3...Nc6 3.Bc4...Nf6 4.Ng5...d5 5.exd5...b5!?
being
6.Bf1!...Nd4! 7.c3 (transposing to the Fritz Variation)