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Hey guys! I was wondering if any of you play this defence and why. If not, I would like to have your opinion.

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Originally posted by badivan1
Hey guys! I was wondering if any of you play this defence and why. If not, I would like to have your opinion.
Yes.

Have you ever heard of the Traxler gambit?

I love it.
Game 3533228
Game 3475013

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I have heard of it. It is certainly double-edged, although I think if White isn't too greedy in this variation, he/she might be able to survive.

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Originally posted by badivan1
I have heard of it. It is certainly double-edged, although I think if White isn't too greedy in this variation, he/she might be able to survive.
I've played it for a while now. Traxler himself considered it objectively sound despite it's sharpness.. fritz judges it as playable. It's good enough for me. I just made a post suggesting a traxler thematic.. that would be awesome.

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Have you heard of the Fritz variation (... 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nd4)? I play this variation, and so far, all the opponents I played against didn't know how to reply.

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Originally posted by badivan1
Have you heard of the Fritz variation (... 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nd4)? I play this variation, and so far, all the opponents I played against didn't know how to reply.
first time i played against it i got mated in 10.. I have an idea of what i'm doing now though.

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yippe.. here's another traxler to add to the collection...

Game 3712789

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People are still willing to get into traxler lines!!!

Game 3711038

Cmon People give up.

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Originally posted by ih8sens
Yes.

Have you ever heard of the Traxler gambit?

I love it.
Game 3533228
Game 3475013
Easy way to stop the Traxler Gambit:

Move 6: King to f1.

The 2 knights defense really welcomes the Fried Liver Attack.

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Originally posted by Ramned
Easy way to stop the Traxler Gambit:

Move 6: King to f1.
Game 3711038

Doesn't help too much...

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Originally posted by ih8sens
Game 3711038

Doesn't help too much...
He played poor rnough for you to succeed...

8 Bxd5 would have been better. Actually good enough maybe to stop your whole attack.

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Originally posted by Ramned
He played poor rnough for you to succeed...

8 Bxd5 would have been better. Actually good enough maybe to stop your whole attack.
I doubt it.. that's a book move... his move 9 was the first move out of book.

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Originally posted by ih8sens
I doubt it.. that's a book move... his move 9 was the first move out of book.
Who cares about the book! Tell what you would have done past 8 Bxd4.

8 Bxd4 is better than pxd4 because the bishop is open and e4 protected from the f6 knight. White is also ahead enough to sacrifice his queen and still be ok. And white isn't obligated to take the rook on move 7...actually it might be a bad idea to do that.

The book is not something to completely obey.

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Originally posted by badivan1
Hey guys! I was wondering if any of you play this defence and why. If not, I would like to have your opinion.
In my opinion, it's boring like the Giuoco Piano. I play the Latvian Gambit.

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Originally posted by Ramned
Who cares about the book! Tell what you would have done past 8 Bxd4.

8 Bxd4 is better than pxd4 because the bishop is open and e4 protected from the f6 knight. White is also ahead enough to sacrifice his queen and still be ok. And white isn't obligated to take the rook on move 7...actually it might be a bad idea to do that.

The book is not something to completely obey.
Bg4 pretty much wins for black if white plays 8. Bxd4

If you disagree make a set piece from that position and see what you can do with it. There's no way white could win a position that open when black has a queen and isn't countered by a white queen.

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