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Originally posted by Jasen777
You're not underrated. You're a sandbagger.

Offense intended.
I hope your not referring to me.....

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Originally posted by c guy1
I hope your not referring to me.....
I wasn't.

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Originally posted by c guy1
I hope your not referring to me.....
that was to diet coke

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The game in the first post is not a dead loss for black, surely!

f7 is controlled by his queen, rook, bishop, and king, whilst white has only a rook and bishop controlling it.

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If black was willing to give up his queen, he could have gone to a King pawn end game. But white has a better pawn structure and would probably win. I suppose white could have chosen to go into a R vs R end game.

If you want to save your queen, you'll lose the game with something like this:

Bxf7 27. Bxf7 Rxf7 28 Re8+ Rf8 29. RXf8# (it doesn't matter which rook takes it)

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That queen sacrafice with c guy 1 looks pretty dubious, I would be checking those moves against a prog.

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If you don't think a queen sac is necessary, how would you play it out as black. The game is black to move.

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Originally posted by Elwyn
That queen sacrafice with c guy 1 looks pretty dubious, I would be checking those moves against a prog.
interestingly....I did just that in one of my clubs after the game was no longer in progress....the queen sack was indeed best move.

Worst case scenario out of the deal I was up a passed pawn in a 5p v6p pawn endgame....most other lines lead to checkmate

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Originally posted by Eladar
If black was willing to give up his queen, he could have gone to a King pawn end game. But white has a better pawn structure and would probably win. I suppose white could have chosen to go into a R vs R end game.

If you want to save your queen, you'll lose the game with something like this:

Bxf7 27. Bxf7 Rxf7 28 Re8+ Rf8 29. RXf8# (it doesn't matter which rook takes it)
I don't see how he can get a rook and pawn endgame? After all the swapping, either the king is on f7 with the rook on f8 and Rf1+ swaps the rook or the rook is on f7, king on g8 and Re8+ forces the swap.

The pawn endgame is easily winning for white with the protected passed pawn.

24.e6 is a fantastic move.

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Originally posted by Schumi
I don't see how he can get a rook and pawn endgame? After all the swapping, either the king is on f7 with the rook on f8 and Rf1+ swaps the rook or the rook is on f7, king on g8 and Re8+ forces the swap.

The pawn endgame is easily winning for white with the protected passed pawn.

24.e6 is a fantastic move.
thanks...I didn't have very much calculated at the time, I just felt like the white squared pressure was huge....and I went for it cause all other scenarios (after I accidently trapped my queen) led to inferior positions

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Yes, black gets forced to swap. But I said that white can choose a rook-rook ending if he wants it.