using knights early

Of all the openings that use knights early and agressively, which are the most effective? What are the drawbacks of using one or both knights agressively early or mid game?

Originally posted by ladyviola66
Of all the openings that use knights early and agressively, which are the most effective? What are the drawbacks of using one or both knights agressively early or mid game?

What do you mean aggressively?

Moving them from say Ng1-Nf3-Ne5 like that?

2-knights defence can lead to much friskiness for black.

the budapest gambit involves all of the minor pieces early and if white isn't careful he'll fall into mate around move 9 if he plays a wrong move.

Something like this?

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 e5 5. Nb5 d6 6. c4 Be7 7. N1c3 a6 8. Na3 Be6 9. Nc2 *

Originally posted by ladyviola66
Of all the openings that use knights early and agressively, which are the most effective? What are the drawbacks of using one or both knights agressively early or mid game?

as a rule, develope all pieces first, and only then attack.

unless your opponent does something stupid, losing material (without heavy compensation) or lets you start a crushing attack.

if you attack prematurely, your pieces will just be pushed back losing tempi. or your attack will just run out of steam and leave you dead in the water. every tempo in the opening is crucial in order to develope your pieces. being ahead in development is like temporarily playing a piece up.

How about the vulture defense? 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c5 3 d5 Ne4!?
That can be a fun one.

heres a good tip if grandmasters don't play it theres probably a reason not to.

Originally posted by kmac27
heres a good tip if grandmasters don't play it theres probably a reason not to.

Yeah I'm constantly playing GM's here on RHP lol!

Originally posted by kmac27
heres a good tip if grandmasters don't play it theres probably a reason not to.

I agree with that assertion, but... If you can't figure out why GM's don't play a particular move, try it and see if your opponent can show you. The worst that can happen is that you will be punished, and hopefully learn something from it.

Originally posted by kmac27
heres a good tip if grandmasters don't play it theres probably a reason not to.

GM's dont play lots of moves which are infact playable if inferior in their judgement....no doubt at one time they did play such moves and learnt from that experience.

By "agressisvely," I mean advancing or continuting to develop the knights over other pieces to squeeze the oppenent ant take lots of material (hopefully).

Originally posted by wormwood
as a rule, develope all pieces first, and only then attack.

unless your opponent does something stupid, losing material (without heavy compensation) or lets you start a crushing attack.

if you attack prematurely, your pieces will just be pushed back losing tempi. or your attack will just run out of steam and leave you dead in the water. every tempo in ...[text shortened]... rder to develope your pieces. being ahead in development is like temporarily playing a piece up.

Well said. Unless one is playing a true beginner, it's unlikely to get very far in the long run with a simplistic knight attack. If only there were a way... maybe somewhere midgame. Am I dreaming?

Originally posted by wormwood
as a rule, develope all pieces first, and only then attack.

unless your opponent does something stupid, losing material (without heavy compensation) or lets you start a crushing attack.

if you attack prematurely, your pieces will just be pushed back losing tempi. or your attack will just run out of steam and leave you dead in the water. every tempo in ...[text shortened]... rder to develope your pieces. being ahead in development is like temporarily playing a piece up.

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