Originally posted by heinzkat Check out the Nakamura video on his win vs. Van Wely three days ago. Many of his explanations are based on intuition - if he feels there's nothing, there really is nothing even if you check out all the possible moves. If there is something, alarm bells are ringing everywhere. Sub-1800s are too weak and ignorant to do the calculations, sub-2200s are e ...[text shortened]... h situations.
That's about the explanation I come up with, combined with nimzo's quotes 😉
OK, we have reached a point where we clearly differ. That's always a nice point to reach in discussions. I think the opposite of the above. I don't think they rely on instincts, and dive into deep calculations. Instincts play a role on which route to take, but they do build the route first.
Sometimes when i play 1600 -1700 players it seems like these guys are calculating way more than I am but its like they calculate totally ridiculous stuff like one would expect a computer to calculate like if i triple my pawns via this long sequence and move the same piece twelve times I can win a pawn.They usually don`t believe me when i say something like I didn`t take that pawn since my pieces aren`t developed.
Maybe stronger players analyze and weaker ones tend to calculate thinking they are the same thing.
Originally posted by National Master Dale Sometimes when i play 1600 -1700 players it seems like these guys are calculating way more than I am but its like they calculate totally ridiculous stuff like one would expect a computer to calculate like if i triple my pawns via this long sequence and move the same piece twelve times I can win a pawn.They usually don`t believe me when i say som ...[text shortened]... ybe stronger players analyze and weaker ones tend to calculate thinking they are the same thing.
I was playing an FM a couple weeks ago. I got caught under prepared in a fairly common line of the slav- spent like 40 min on move 11 and then sac'd a piece. The FM took it without thought and it wasnt till about 10 moves later that he paused to think. I ended up losing in clear winning position with 5 min on my clock (he still had an hour in 90min+30 fide control). My blunder was an elementary move but it was caused by time pressure, fatigue and by opting out of the most complicated line precisely when it was winning. I had spent so much effort calculating through totally new ideas (really bad idea with the current fide control) that when I finally did reach the critical position I was aiming for, I completely fumbled. This is a good example of what NM Dale is talking about.
He didnt deserve such respect - if he had been more of a man he would have resigned himself earlier rather then hoped to get lucky with a cheapo - I would have played b3 and let him try and deal with those passed pawns coming forward, you might have managed to win yourself another piece and then it would have been more of a fight for him to win the game.
Originally posted by nimzo5 after 20.. Rd7 I had a clear win, missed it opted for the safe move which was inferior. After Ba6 Qa6 Qa6+ there is no real reason to play on.
21. Rxe7+? I'm not convinced by the early Bxe6, better to develop instead
Then again I'm saccing my way on e6 at this very moment and have done so in another recent RHP game, I'm not following my own advice 😕
lol, well over the board I felt that I wouldn't have compensation for the pawn if I played quietly- he was playing by rote and e6 couldnt have been right 🙂
Originally posted by heinzkat If there is something, alarm bells are ringing everywhere. Sub-1800s are too weak and ignorant to do the calculations, sub-2200s are extremely gullible, so they do all the calculations, 2200+ can normally just rely on their instincts (based on a sense of mastery) to handle such situations.)
23.Rxd5 Be6?
"A bad mistake after which I spend 20 minutes trying to understand his idea. I didn't find it. He should have played 23...Bf5 24.Qb3 Be6 and he can still hope." Kramnik, talking about a relatively easy combination. I don't think he is a sub -2200 player. 🙂
Visualizing OTB combinations in the middle game
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